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I admit to being a "newbiee" Everyone is when they first start. I have asked questions in this forum and have had them answered too but recently some members have ignored my querys; either because I don't "do enough business" or, "I ain't worth the time". All too often it is the same faces saying the same things and now it's feeling that this is a soap box just for them. The question is: How did you start except by asking? You have talents and capabilitities far beyond mine so why shut me out because I do not know? do enough "business", or ain't worth the time because I don't make big bucks?
Posts: 33 | From: Flint Hills of Kansas | Registered: May 2005
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I'm sorry, you say something? C'mon that was funny....
If you are here long enough you will get in a flamewar, get a few nasty e-mails telling you too F-off and learn a whole bunch too. I myself have only met a couple of people, many have been here years and are very comfortable with thier relationships with a few people and others are very inviting, give it time. You will have a great time or stomp away in a fit....
-------------------- Rick Chavez Hemet, CA Posts: 1538 | From: Hemet,CA U.S.A. | Registered: Jun 2001
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What is it you want to know? I haven't noticed any of your posts where you were "shut out". Often, because of the established relationships already developed here, it seems very hard to break in. Trust me, we've ALL felt that way and most of us haven't forgotten. Jump in , ask away, we're here to help each other (and don't kid yourself: very few of us are making the big bucks)
-------------------- www.signcreations.net Sonny Franks Lilburn, GA 770-923-9933 Posts: 4115 | From: Lilburn, GA USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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I may be mistaken,, But you have only one post you initiated and it was answered by several pro's who really know thier stuff. There was no need for 20 others to post to it.. they gave u a perfect answer..
All your other postings are on some one else's thread. Its kind of hard to dance with you that way..
-------------------- Leaper of Tall buildings.. If you find my posts divisive or otherwise snarky please ignore them. If you do not know how then PM me about it and I will demonstrate. Posts: 5274 | From: Im a nowhere man | Registered: Jul 2001
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Hi - from another Kelly - they just think you are me.....
I can't figure out where this is coming from. Here is a neat liitle trick, click on the profile icon on one of your posts - it has a rollover that will tell you which one. Now click on "view recent posts" in the upper right. There doesn't seem to be any reason there for you to feel that way. Hang around for a while and you should feel more comfortable. BTW are you a M or F...just curious.
-------------------- “Did you ever stop to think, and forget to start again?” -Winnie the Pooh & A.A. Milne
Kelly Thorson Kel-T-Grafix 801 Main St. Holdfast, SK S0G 2H0 ktg@sasktel.net Posts: 5496 | From: Penzance, Saskatchewan | Registered: May 2002
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Best way not to be ignored here is to just toss that search button out the window and ask a question thats already been asked about 7500 times over a 6month stretch,just like youre an old regular here...either that or make a post askin for free clipart,software or fonts....any of those is sure to generate enuff traffic on a thread to where it looks like a tophat give away at the asshat factory. Post more
-------------------- Gavin Chachere Plotter in the garage,New Orleans La.
"Sgts Shugart and Gordon again request permission to rope down to crash site two" Posts: 1223 | From: new orleans.la. | Registered: Mar 2000
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got any nak-ed pics you can post....thatll get our attention.....otherwise sit up late at nite and try to "STUMP THE OLDTIMERS" with some thin they mght not know.....
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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I would recommend you introduce yourself to the group. Give some details about what you do, your history in the business, and any other information that people might find helpful in getting to know you.
When you reply to someone else's post, sometimes people will respond to what you've said, but often they won't. It doesn't mean they don't like you, or that they are purposely ignoring you. To get more feedback on the forum, you need to initiate more posts of your own. You will get responses.
If you stick around long enough, you will start getting to know people on a more individual basis, which makes the whole experience more rewarding. There are some really really nice people here.
My mind wanders. And that's not a good thing, 'cause it's too small to be out there alone. Posts: 3129 | From: Tooele, UT | Registered: Mar 2005
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Kelly Thorson Kel-T-Grafix 801 Main St. Holdfast, SK S0G 2H0 ktg@sasktel.net Posts: 5496 | From: Penzance, Saskatchewan | Registered: May 2002
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quote:Originally posted by Kelly Sawyer: Being a man of few natural talents here is a trick I use ...
(posted for Kelly... well, kinda for OP too )
...don't feel like the lone ranger Kelly, I've been here every day for almost 4 years, but last month I spent an hour cropping & uploading pics to get some shop renovation feedback & another thread surfaced about the same time where someone started a topic by mistake & edited the title to say "ignore this"
...dang, that post got endless attention & I nearly had a conversation with myself to keep my post alive untill a few charitable souls chimed in out of pity
I find myself reading this post and realizing how much like a live meet this website can sometimes be.
At my first one, I felt a little intimidated by the talented group of folks I was begining to meet and was very absorbed by watching them work and listening in on discussions. I was nervous as all get out. Within a few hours, I'd found that I had many common experiences with other Letterheads, the initial jitters and feeling that I wasn't worthy to be there passed and the rest of the weekend was nothing short of wonderful.
As time has passed, I've had the pleasure of meeting many of the people here in Letterville. Several have become good friends. We do tend to throw about some inside jokes, personal jabs in the name of fun (like the current tagline jokes of late) and some off topic stuff, but whn a question does come up, you'll often find it gets responses in very little time.
There are no stupid questions, just stupid answers. Ask away. There's plenty of fun loving and passionate sign folks ready to help here.
and most importantly...
Welcome to Letterville! Rapid
[ August 02, 2005, 07:24 AM: Message edited by: Ray Rheaume ]
-------------------- Ray Rheaume Rapidfire Design 543 Brushwood Road North Haverhill, NH 03774 rapidfiredesign@hotmail.com 603-787-6803
I like my paint shaken, not stirred. Posts: 5648 | From: North Haverhill, New Hampshire | Registered: Apr 2003
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....maybe it's your cologne? Nah, seriously, if I'd have noticed your question I would have replied.
So here goes: After I pounce, if there is a heavy buildup of graphite or chalk, I gently blow off the area with compressed air BEFORE painting. Sometimes I ever blow on it manually. Anthing to knock that chalk down. I know that it is harder to pounce with a machine-cut pattern, but try using a lighter touch. Also, I plot my pounce patterns in reverse, this seems to make them work better. Just flip & pounce.
I didn't mean to ignore ya. Honest. This place IS cliquish at the best of times, but we always try to welcome newbies...at least I do. Sometimes you might need to add "BUMP" to your own topic just to get it noticed. But PLEASE, no nekkid pix or mullet pix or Speedo pix, unless you look like Fabio.
Love....Jill
Posts: 8834 | From: Butler, PA, USA | Registered: Jan 2001
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I was having a problem on how to back HDU last week & noticed Chuck's thread & I read it. then I had more questions, so I just asked on HIS thread. No answers. Then I realized I needed to post my OWN thread, & I did. I recieved some very helpful tips after doing that. Sometimes you will get answers by adding to someone else's thread, but it is better I think to post your own.
And yes, it is easy to feel "left out", I have felt that way before too, but I shove it aside & post anyway!
I have not been on here long either, & I have been to 1 meet, before I came on here & got to know people a little. I am planning on going to Jill's meet in a few weeks & boy, I am fighting a fear of meeting some of these people in person! Not to mention that my hand lettering skills need desperate help! But I going, I want to learn!!!
Don't give up, keep posting, before you know it, you won't be able to stay away from the board for more than a day!
-------------------- The Word in Signs Bobbie Rochow Jamestown, PA 16134
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thewordinsigns@alltel.net Posts: 3485 | From: Jamestown, PA 16134 | Registered: Oct 2002
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Hey Kelly, I just looked back at your post about the pounce. I believe you got all of the information that one would ever need to use a pounce!
One thing you may consider doing is to RETURN to the topic and let people know that you were satisfied with their answers - a little tip of the hat , or a "thanks for the help" kind of thing. That way, we konw you understood, or you can ask a more specific question for clarification.
It certainly didn't look like you were ignored at all.
Remember, it may not look like it, but we are all professionals who are also working, not just hanging out here online as a helpline. (Okay, maybe some of us are not always online.) I happen to look in several times a day. Some topics catch my eye - some don't.
When starting a topic, don't make it too cryptic. Some people start with: "What do you think?" How's this? My latest! Help!!!
They are not asking a specific enough question to get quality responses. Keep this in mind, and you may fare better.
Look at it this way, you just got a slew of responses here. It is a DIALOGUE. Talk back to us.
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-------------------- Gene Golden Gettysburg Signs Gettysburg PA 17325 717-334-0200 genegolden@gettysburgsigns.com
"Art is knowing when to stop." Posts: 1578 | From: Gettysburg, PA | Registered: Jun 2003
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Thanks for the responses everyone. I appreciate it. I also apologize for "painting with too broad a brush" as it were. I suppose that a more precise stroke is nessesary. In truth, the following didn't not occur on the Bullboard but bringing them to the group seems the only way to get answers. 1. Panel jams are annouced and I wanted to know what the requirements are as to what the size of a panel is. I sent the e-mail to the one announcing it on this forum and to date it it still appears to have fell in to the Void. 2. I asked a couple other members about screenprinting and while one did respond another didn't but still acts like everybodies favorite uncle on the subject (you know who you are). The one who did respond sent a very nice, detailed response as to what they do but when I tried to place an order it too fell into the Void. 3. When I wanted to know just how a certain effect was achieved in a a posting I saw here that one actually got RUDE and told me that Kansas wasn't worth their time. As if California is the end-all be all of this World which is in itself a touchy subject to a man from Montana who experienced the effect of those folk who turned it into their playground and put too many good people out of work and out of their homes, like me. All of the above did not take place on the forum, rather they were private communications I attempted but the fact remains that if they had not been members and apparently exemplars of this fine and noble profession here I would not even have asked. For insults and put-downs all I have to do is look to that space on the other side of the counter but one this side of the "push" decal. I'll still come here, finding this forum was the second best thing I ever did, the first being taking a challenge to paint a sign all those years ago. To those I slapped with the broad brush I apologize, to those it covered with accuracy I say "If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it must be a duck." To Kelly: The last time I looked I got an "outie" if that makes difference. To Si: Fresh breath does not matter when you always smell like enamel and cargo pants will ALWAYS RULE especially when you don't have 8 hands to hold 12 things. Thanks again everyone, and a special "good buddy" (pick one) slap on the back or hug to those who took the time to guide me when I entered the dusty world of pouncing. For the record I bought an electro-pouncer and am quite happy with the tips I picked up here.
Posts: 33 | From: Flint Hills of Kansas | Registered: May 2005
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OK. It was a couple of your emails that were ignored?
If I send an email asking for some info and don't get an answer, I'll resend the email if it's something I really want to know. Some people get a lot of mails, and then there's also email filters that can sometimes "eat" them before they're delivered.
I had that happen with Kelly T. a few times before we found out that her email filter didn't like my "signature" attachment. All of my emails to her were being rerouted to her trash bin.
BTW, my problem is that I'm not ignored enough. LOL
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E-mail is not perfect if it was really important pick up the phone.
-------------------- Steve Eisenreich Dezine Signs PO BOX 6052 Stn Forces Cold Lake, Alberta T9M 2C5 Posts: 774 | From: Cold Lake | Registered: Mar 2000
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And by the way, just for the record, we ARE NOT ducks. Like Steve said, if it's important, pick up the phone before bitching that you didn't get a reply to an email or two.
Sounds like you haven't been fully initiated yet if the worst that happened was that your emails were ignored and you got one rude reply.
A post about any innocent topic will ultimately turn into the War of the Worlds....so you need to quickly develop the skin of a Walmart trampoline to repel the onslaught of rude replies and profanity laced emails that will surely come.
All in all there are enough people that are genuinely as *nice* and caring in private messages and emails as they appear to be on this board.
Just as it is in life, there will always be people that don't like you for a variety of illegitimate reasons.
I wouldn't worry too much about not making it into the "click". That's usually the sound you hear before the gun goes off.
-------------------- Todd Gill Outside The Lines Potterville, MI Posts: 7792 | From: Potterville, MI | Registered: Dec 2001
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You do not hear the click of the bullet being fired. Bullets travel faster than the speed of sound.
-------------------- Steve Eisenreich Dezine Signs PO BOX 6052 Stn Forces Cold Lake, Alberta T9M 2C5 Posts: 774 | From: Cold Lake | Registered: Mar 2000
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Clarification: Talking about the click of the hammer being engaged (cocking the trigger - and assuming a mental picture of the ol' west single action revolver - understanding that semi-auto's wouldn't adhere to this word-picture.)...not the hammer striking the firing pin. Thus - "Click, (followed by a squeeze of the trigger) and Bang."
-------------------- Todd Gill Outside The Lines Potterville, MI Posts: 7792 | From: Potterville, MI | Registered: Dec 2001
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Now you can no longer claim to be ignored, your thread even attracted Todd Gill and Doug Allen - those two alone could propel your posts into some of the longest running threads in Letterville.
See? You just need to start your own new topics to get attention.
-------------------- "If I share all my wisdom I won't have any left for myself."
Mike Pipes stickerpimp.com Lake Havasu, AZ mike@stickerpimp.com Posts: 8746 | From: Lake Havasu, AZ USA | Registered: Jun 2000
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doug hasn't quoted yet,, so theres still some chance this thread post count will go into the higher numbers..
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Now you can no longer claim to be ignored, your thread even attracted Todd Gill and Doug Allen - those two alone could propel your posts into some of the longest running threads in Letterville.
See? You just need to start your own new topics to get attention.
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Some spam filters are way too sensitive and some people never think to see if there is anything in their spam folder that isn't spam.
Sometimes emails just disintegrate in cyberspace.
Also, this thread is your 8th and 9th posts. It'd be real easy to miss all of your previous posts, making your name totally unheard of. Yes, we all share info here, we also all sorta know each other too. To tell you the truth, if I got an email from someone I've never heard of wanting information on how I did something, I'm not sure I'd answer it.
Just reminds me of the guy who called that wanted to make his own sign... but wanted me to tell him what to use, where to get it and how to do it. Oh yeah, he wanted me to give him the phone number and prices from my supplier too.
-------------------- Chris Welker Wildfire Signs Indiana, Pa Posts: 4254 | From: Indiana, PA | Registered: Mar 2001
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Oh yeah, that's what you need to do for answers...log into Chat some night, the later the better. You'll end up with more knowlege than you really, really ever wanted to know.
-------------------- Pat Whatley Montgomery, AL (334) 262-7446 office (334) 324-8465 cell Posts: 1306 | From: Wetumpka, AL USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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quote:Originally posted by Patrick Whatley: Oh yeah, that's what you need to do for answers...log into Chat some night, the later the better. You'll end up with more knowlege than you really, really ever wanted to know.
Hmmmm.. yeaaaaah... that might scare Kelly away.
-------------------- "If I share all my wisdom I won't have any left for myself."
Mike Pipes stickerpimp.com Lake Havasu, AZ mike@stickerpimp.com Posts: 8746 | From: Lake Havasu, AZ USA | Registered: Jun 2000
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quote: Just as it is in life, there will always be people that don't like you for a variety of illegitimate reasons.
..yeah & then there are the guys who do like, respect & generally get along with you who will still give you a hellacious debate at the drop of hat... just because we can (uh.. I mean they)
quote: You do not hear the click of the bullet being fired. Bullets travel faster than the speed of sound.
...sounds like all you guys are imagining yourselves on the wrong end of the gun... if you're assuming a mental picture... might as well come up a winner
quote:Originally posted by Curtis hammond: doug hasn't quoted yet,, so theres still some chance this thread post count will go into the higher numbers..
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DUDE!! watchyou smokin'... I started my presence here with a quote ... an I had 2 more cued up before I even saw your post!
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Tonight's sermon is based on Proverbs chapter 17, verse 11. * * * * * * * * * * * * * Immediately following the service there will be a collection for Mr. Donahue's medical expenses. * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sometimes, a response is SO perfect,SO comprehensive, SO wise, and SO inteligent that there's nothing left to say. * * * * * * * * * * * * * Yes I did just buy a bridge at a great price, how did you know???? * * * * * * * * * * * * Seriously though, when I first came here, I thought the internet was this big, impersonal place where nobody knew the others, and I responded accordingly. That was a mistake.
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Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
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Totally edited in interests of civility, I won't let Letterville see my NASTY side...nuff said...
-------------------- Frank Magoo, Magoo's-Las Vegas; fmagoo@netzero.com "the only easy day was yesterday" Posts: 2365 | From: Las Vegas, Nv. | Registered: Jun 2003
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I remember reading your only "initial" post and I din't reply because I had no useful information to give.
As far as nasty or discouraging e-mails are concerned...didn't do them either!!
BUT if you want to send ME "nasty" stuff in e-mails..that's OK...I LIKE looking at pictures!!!
(PS..Joe and Si, I don't need any pics of you guys though!)
-------------------- Dave Grundy retired in Chelem,Yucatan,Mexico/Hensall,Ontario,Canada 1-519-262-3651 Canada 011-52-1-999-102-2923 Mexico cell 1-226-785-8957 Canada/Mexico home
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