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I've posted some of my work before and criticized it to death... some don't understand why, but basically it's to analyze the problems and try to have a better solution the next time I face it.
This time I'm going to post a work in progress and see if I can get some helpful feedback to actually change the final product instead of just regretting what I've already done. heh heh (I'm really not as hard on myself as it might seem, just honest)
I've found a weakness that I seem to have is that I design things in separate stages, and then try to incorporate them into a whole. The pieces are fine by themselves, but I think my layouts aren't nearly as strong as the individual elements.
This image is sort of in it's infancy, and will be "tricked up" later, but the basic shapes and ideas for the layout is suggested. Pardoning the primary copy, most of it is just what I would consider "placeholders" to fool around with positioning and scale.
Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to convey how you would bring these elements together in the "perfect" way.
I will post the final images when finished, and thank you in advance for any advice or suggestions.
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Ok, first - thanks again for some really solid advice. I've refined the initial concept quite a bit. There are still a few things to tweak, but I think I'm on my way.
I've followed some of the advice, and I still have to try a few of the other suggestions, but I wanted to get this thing a lot closer to what I was after first. I think the suggestions are all well founded and "worth a look". I really appreciate it.
This is what I was initially working toward: I really like how "in your face" the Harrietsville copy is and how it ties into the two end panels. But I didn't like how it relegated the olympics part to such a secondary role (and crowded too). I also thought that the arched copy was begging to relate to an arch in the background panel instead of conflicting a bit with a straight line.
So, I think I prefer this:
I'll update this again later.
[ May 26, 2002, 08:55 PM: Message edited by: Bob Darnell ]
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You seem to be off to a good start, Bob. But one thing that I noticed right off was that my eye was drawn to the Olympic logo at the tip of what is almost an arrow pointing down and away from the message. But I do like that panel. Maybe a little more breathing space around the edges, also.
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I like the color scheme; the warm colors in Harrietsville really jump off the cool background, particularly with the soft black shadow. Try balancing the scroll coming off the crossbar of the H with a similar scroll coming off the E at the end of Harrietsville. It may or may not work, but it's worth a look.
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Bob, Design looks great, I love the B&W art. My suggestion would be to lose the part of the scrolls that are directly behind the olympic logo. It's kind of confusing. The cow pumping iron looks as if he is placed on top of the circle(mostly at the bottom), maybe alter him so he looks as if he is coming out of the inner circle. Hope I conveyed that correctly. My .02 Hope you post a completed pic.
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Hi Bob. You've got some really nice elements to work with here, but I feel that they're sort of floating as distinct and separate islands of interest. First off, I might try making the circular shapes behind the illustrations the same red as your drop shade, but keep the inset lines yellow as you have them. Secondly, I might try reversing the background colour and the pale blue panel, so that the secondary 2002 OLYMPICS has more to contrast against. Thirdly, I'd try making those Olympic Rings a maroon colour. With the present black/white combination, the eye tries to mix the colours and it's "perceived" as a similar grey to the scrollwork behind them. Those lines below the scroll could also be tried as maroon, and thus give some reinforcement to the Olympic Rings.
I hope this helps, and I look forward to seeing how this progresses.
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Bob.. Give it up man.. They all look fantastic! Just curios... how would you produce this.. digital or by hand? Also is this going to be used as a banner? a sign? and from how far away would one view it? It looks great, I love your designs.
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Bob, Not to be confusing, but I really prefer the first one. I don't see my eyes getting drawn to anywhere that it should not.It has no confining elements and the best balance. Two things though, fit the cow belly at the bottom of the circle a little better, and maybe take that center part of the flourish at the bottom out behind the Olympic logo, and fit the logo into it. It is a little confusing there. Great work.
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