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That looks great! I don't have a problem with "farm"... it think it works. Looks clean and simple. Sometimes I place a bullet or a diamond between spaced letters like F A R M but this may clutter it or even help with the spacing between the "f" and the "a" and the "a" and the "r".
The updates are great and definately show a positive progression in the design and presentation. I hope that you are compensated for your additional work!
-------------------- Jeff Vrstal Main Street Signs 157 E. Main Street Evansville, WI 53536 1-608-882-0322 Posts: 670 | From: Evansville, Wisconsin | Registered: Sep 2001
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Jeff: That's funny, I had some bullets in there for a while but didn't like 'em. As for compensation, here's how I work it:
On custom jobs like this I have a flat design fee of $110, that gets the client 1 or 2 designs, a 3 tier price quote, and a nice glossy print that looks like the third drawing up there. They get the print upon payment. Any changes to the designs are billed out at a non-refundable $45 an hour.
Now if they buy the sign from me, a portion of that flat fee comes off of the bottom line (that closes a lot of deals ). If they take the drawing elsewhere, sure it buggs me, but at least I've been paid for my time.
By the by, this is the Jon A. policy for the work that I do personally. NOT the design policy of 21st Century signs, who is my full time employer.
Felix: How'd I get the carved look? Can't tell you. Family secret. If you found out I'd have to kill you..... naw, just funnin'. I just wrote a three part how to on it over on the Letterheads/pinheads talk board. Here's the links.
You do some very nice work! I've enjoyed watching your submittals on the portfolio page.
Since you asked, the only thing that bugs me is the length of the red panel at the bottom. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of stretched out letters. The panel length is what's snatching my eye around.
Assuming you were in corel (terms I can explain somewhat) grab yourself a couple of those dotted lines that you can click/drag from your vertical measurement bar and place them at either end of the scroll work at the top. then drag the panel to the same size. You could experiment with the outer edge of the scroll work or the round part part being the "edge" of your subcopy perimeter. I just thought it would look easier on the eye that way.
If none of that made sense, then picture a chevy logo and picture the bottom hunk wider than the top (under and over the bow).
Thank you for the step by steps, you are a doll to provide them!
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Very sharp! I hope you profit well from this.
Good job.
Joel
-------------------- Joel H. Peters Peter Pan Sign Graphics Cary,Il. "Doin' it Good since 1974" Posts: 114 | From: Cary,IL,USA | Registered: Mar 1999
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I agree, ship it and get ready to do a slug of these because they are GOOD.
-------------------- Jeff Vrstal Main Street Signs 157 E. Main Street Evansville, WI 53536 1-608-882-0322 Posts: 670 | From: Evansville, Wisconsin | Registered: Sep 2001
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Looks great to me. I think the revised Farm panel works well too, although it hadn't bothered me. The final presentation is great. Good to see that you seem to hold off on the full 3d texture look until the client has approved revisions.
Did you create all your scroll work & border designs yourself, or is some of it from a clip art collection? Either way it has been put to good work in this layout. I'd like to get started adding some flair like that to my work someday soon.
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Okay, I'm going to be a spoil-sport here... To me, the pointed top corners of the main copy, being the serif of the "Y" and the "K" lead the eye to the corners of the sign. I would make your main copy (Yellowbrick) a bit smaller, and perhaps reduce the arc of the top curve (make it flatter). As for the "farm" panel, when doing a panel with top and bottom that is parallel to the top/bottom line of the letters, put just a scrid more space under the letters than over. If the letters are dead-center in the panel, the optical illusion is that the letters are too low. And while I'm being picky, I'd leave more space below the panel. As it stands, the space between Yellowbrick and the panel is wider than the space between the panel and the edge of the sign - a major "Mike Stevens no-no".
-------------------- "A wise man concerns himself with the truth, not with what people believe." - Aristotle
Cam Bortz Finest Kind Signs Pondside Iron works 256 S. Broad St. Pawcatuck, Ct. 06379 "Award winning Signs since 1988" Posts: 3051 | From: Pawcatuck,Connecticut USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Ah, the ever observant Cam saves yet another layout from potential disaster. Thanks, you'd better be careful though, I can't afford to put you on the payroll . Gonna have to get me a Pondside Iron works catalog soon.
Doug: My ornaments are usually a little of both. The ones on this sign are from the original Golden Era Studios disk. I very rarely use the clip art straight from the disk, it almost never fits properly and winds up looking sort of pasted in. If I find some clip art that looks apropriate I'll edit it to my satifaction, this also cuts down on the "copied layout factor". I draw my own filigrees quite often as well.
-------------------- Jon Androsky Posts: 438 | From: Williamsport, PA | Registered: Mar 2002
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). If they take the drawing elsewhere, sure it buggs me, but at least I've been paid for my time. 
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Stop that, 'yer makin' me blush!
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