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My truck dealer client is required to have his company name, address, phone number, and USDOT#'s on all semi trucks being delivered to their customers. Two days would be the maximum time these will be used. Something reusable would be ideal. Vinyl decals are the only answer I have found which are NOT reusable. I checked out the removable vinyl decals that Stouse has available but the adhesive is similar to that of a stickie note and will NOT stay on the truck door during transportation. Magnetics signs will NOT work because all trucks have either aluminum or fiberglas bodies. Any suggestions? Judy
-------------------- Judy Pate Signs By Judy Albany, Georgia USA 229-435-6824
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Anyone with a Gerber EDGE (ie Glenn Taylor!!) will be able to print decals for you using Gerber ImageCal "R" - which sounds absolutely perfect for the job!!
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Hi Judy....I am doing some signs on the static cling stuff........d'ya think that would hold on for a couple days?
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Cheryl, I thought about static clings but was advised that they would not stay on the door during transportation. Maybe on the inside of the truck windows but that would obstruct the drivers view. Thanks for your replies! Will compare Edge print to decal price but expect the decal price to be lower. Judy
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Ok, here's my idea. Don't get ticked, this wont be eye candy.
Use coroplast. Grommet the corners and attach with nylon zip ties. Fasten the signs under the step on each side. They will accomplish what you need... to get them from here to there legally. They can be re-used even though they won't last for ever. There is no glue or peeling to worry about. The cost is MUCH less than EDGE print of any kind. A functional, economical solution and your customer is happy.
-------------------- Jeff Vrstal Main Street Signs 157 E. Main Street Evansville, WI 53536 1-608-882-0322 Posts: 670 | From: Evansville, Wisconsin | Registered: Sep 2001
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To be perfectly honest, I don't know how re-useable the stuff is, Diane.
I would think that if your customer takes care to apply it to a clean surface and to return it to a piece of release liner between each use, they should get at least a couple of re-uses out of it.
The best recommendation I can give is to request a sample from your local Gerber dealer and have your customer evaluate the suitability of ImageCal "R" for their particular application.
Did you have a specific project/customer in mind Diane?
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-------------------- Jon Aston MARKETING PARTNERS "Strategy, Marketing and Business Development" Tel 705-719-9209 Posts: 1724 | From: Barrie, ON, CANADA | Registered: Sep 2000
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But D.O.T. "Department of Transport" is not very liking to except the quick change of ICC numbers on vehicles. Or company names for that matter.
Identification is the main purpose of these Rigs. for companies coming or going to warehouses or over the borders (Canada/USA) (State to State)
I would ask the customer more of the answer to WHY?
You may be getting into something that is just not right.
Also if you did do the numbers on something that is only temp. and it did blow off on the road and the driver was pulled over on a weight scale and was fined because of it AND THEY DO GET HEAVY FINES! I think your customer will come after you!
Stick and I do mean STICK to Vinyl!
Sorry for him, but it means that you get repeat work.
One other thing is, that vehicle has to carry a binder with all permits in it anyway. The driver can carry it along with his sleeping gear.
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We use Real estate vinyl from spandex and put the non removable decal on it comes of real easy but will not wash off or blow off we do the same for temporary use of reflective materials for transport or any temp usage
-------------------- Ian Wilson Signmaker Retired 3 Panorama Drive Toowoomba Queensland Australia may all your troubles be little ones. The man that never make a mistake never makes anything. Posts: 656 | From: Toowoomba Queensland Australia | Registered: Nov 1998
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Seems to me I recall at a used car lot they used to use dealer tags that had a spring clip that had 4 clips that would hook over a panel edge or body panel attached to 2 shortened screen door springs to form an "X" on the back of the dealer license plate.It took only a matter of seconds to attach the 4 clips over a sharp edged body panel & the tag would stay in place,...seems you could adapt this to a small panel with pads of some sort to protect the new paint.
-------------------- fly low...timi/NC is, Tim Barrow Barrow Art Signs Winston-Salem,NC Posts: 2224 | From: Winston-Salem,NC,USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Stephen you don't understand. I believe Judy is talking of a Rig dealership who delivers the Rig to the new owner when they buy it. It has to have the dealerships name and DOT # on the truck. This is why it only has to be temporary. From the dealership to the customer, could be 5 miles could be 500miles but still temporary. Am I correct in saying this Judy?
-------------------- Rob Larkham Rob Larkham Signs & Lettering 21 Middlefield Road Chester, MA. 01011
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You are right Rob! This is a Mack,Kenworth,Sterling, dealership for big rigs.They only need this temporarily while delivering to their customer. Judy
-------------------- Judy Pate Signs By Judy Albany, Georgia USA 229-435-6824
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But your laws in the States are different from ours. I drove rigs for many years. And here the only way of transporting vehicle was Piggy Back or Flatbedding (What we called parking lot) Here, there is only one vehicle that is aloted the ICC numbers and that is the main drive unit.
All rigs are issued a binder with the travel permits with the company that bought it.
I have picked up brand new (Great Dane) Trailers in the States to be delivered to Canada. No markings on them for length or width. But full travel permits and spects are in the drivers Bill of Lading. Called a LTL (Land to Land Transporting.)
The driver has to carry this no matter what. Please believe me on this as I have done this to many times in the past.
DOT will not except temporary markings (Coroplast Signs). Your customer is better off sending it blind with the Binder He will be stop at each (Chicken Coop) Scale House but he'll not get into a problem because of temp markings.
Do you know that if you have 1 light out on a trailer the fine can be $50 to $200. for the single light and anything more only doubles or triples.
His Log book if not up dated in the last 2 hours will cost him a nice sum of $500.
Judy in your country it may be so but up here the law is a little more on the taxing of this.
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Judy, just check with your customer as I'm sure you already have as to what they are able to get away with. After that it is out of your hands. If he wants temporary then give it to him.
-------------------- Rob Larkham Rob Larkham Signs & Lettering 21 Middlefield Road Chester, MA. 01011
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This may sound tacky, but why not sell them about 10 yards of white calendar vinyl and have them use a permanamt marker on it, it's legal and legible, sell it for $10 a foot and move on to the better jobs... just my thoughts.
Shawn
-------------------- Shawn Setzer Signs by Shawn 826 Hwy 47 East, Troy, MO Posts: 241 | From: Troy, MO, USA | Registered: Jan 1999
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Stephen, Trucks are delivered from the manufacturer piggy back like you are talking about. What I am talking about is after the unit is sold to the customer. TransPower Inc. is required to have their name,address,phone number, and their own USDOT# just to transport to the customers location. The salesmen include lettering in the price of some of the trucks and I letter them. USDOT doesn't require them to have TransPower's info on the lettered trucks when transported to customers. Are we still talking about the same thing,Stephen? Judy
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You say that TransPower needs to have their info on the truck when delivered to the client's location and that LETTERED trucks do not require TransPower's information. Did you letter the trucks for the client and is that permanent lettering?
-------------------- Jeff Vrstal Main Street Signs 157 E. Main Street Evansville, WI 53536 1-608-882-0322 Posts: 670 | From: Evansville, Wisconsin | Registered: Sep 2001
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Removable vinyl is the answer. Gerber/3m make a white that you can letter with vinyl. I have a soda company that goes out of their area to delivery soda pop and they cover up their door signage with removable vinyl so no one can see who they are.
They have been doing this 1 day a week for the last 2 years. The key is putting the removable vinyl back on the release vinyl when storing. They travel 60 miles on the interstate in some very nasty weather. Never had a problem.
Good Luck,
Jerry
-------------------- Jerry Morrissey Rapid Graphics & Signs Omaha NE 402-597-3606 Posts: 92 | From: Omaha, NE. USA | Registered: Jan 1999
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quote:Anyone with a Gerber EDGE (ie Glenn Taylor!!) will be able to print decals for you using Gerber ImageCal "R" - which sounds absolutely perfect for the job!!
Simple, ecomomical solution for small-to-medium quantities.
-------------------- Jon Aston MARKETING PARTNERS "Strategy, Marketing and Business Development" Tel 705-719-9209 Posts: 1724 | From: Barrie, ON, CANADA | Registered: Sep 2000
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Jon and Jerry are correct. "Gerber ImageCal R" is removable and reusable up to about 5 times if the decals are stored properly and care is taken not contaminate the adhesive.
quote:Originally posted by Glenn Taylor: ...if the decals are stored properly and care is taken not contaminate the adhesive.
And you expect some dealership to do this?
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Jeffery, Yes I letter the trucks with the customer's logo and USDOT or ICC numbers before delivery. Guess I should encourage the sales staff to sell the lettering on all of them,huh. I will check out that removable vinyl. What I had priced was decals printed on Stouse's removable vinyl which does not have enough adhesive on it. Thanks for all the replies here and via e-mail. Judy
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