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Wow, I get to do a brick wall for a company that claims money is no object, they want the panel to look weathered.
So I'm thinkin of letting them pressure wash it, I prime it with block out and then roll on the panel and letter it. Then, I figure I could smack it around with a brick?
Right now, it's drawn up in a bold block letter style. No big whoop, but I would like to know what most of you get for this, when the client is not cheap about it. I am bidding against another company who "does not want to paint this."
I'm not used to bidding against other folks. I was spoiled when I was in demand before.
I've also been given the go ahead to design sompn creative. That will get me some airbrush exposure hehehe! We're looking at a steel motif.
60 sq ft represents an arrow (all curve hehehe)
120 sq ft is the panel behind the lettering
90 sq feet is the actual lettering (2 words, 10 upper case letters)
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I suggest you contact "TIMI" he does this type work all the time......he is very good at what he does and he commands top dollar..(and gets it also ) Shep'
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I'm getting $15.00 per square foot in Birmingham. This will cover lift rental,materials,labor,and helper. CAUTION: Air brushing outside on this type of texture will not benifit the customer! Let me know if I can help you out. Been doing this kinda work most of my time.
-------------------- PKing is Pat King The Professor of SIGNOLOGY Posts: 3113 | From: Pompano Beach, FL. USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Pat is right Linda,...airbrush work will need some sort of clear coat if it is to last on a masonry wall.As for pricing it you say money is no object,hehehehehehe they ought to know better than to say that! Is the wall inside or outside? How high off the ground is it? How many people will see it each day? There are alot of variables to consider when placing a value on your work.How long will it take you to produce? What will the materials cost? I've seen masonry walls swallow up to three times the amount of paint that the same area on a wood or metal panel would.Be sure to seal the masonry first before you prime.There is alot more info needed here before you can just pull a price out of thin air.
-------------------- fly low...timi/NC is, Tim Barrow Barrow Art Signs Winston-Salem,NC Posts: 2224 | From: Winston-Salem,NC,USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Wow! It never ceases to amaze me ...the help I get here! This is incredible!
I decided not to post possible jobs up on the bb anymore, for self-preservation in regards to underbidding, etc. I'll be in chat for a spell and can dcc it around to those of you who can see it and help me decide what to do. I've been playing with the creative end of this and have a couple of photoshops to show.
It's 10:45 pm EST now, I'll see yawl there...till midnight most likely...or some point beyond Phwhahaha...ahem.
As far as clearing goes, I can tell them to get it done and I have whatever scaffolding I need at my disposal, all I'm pricing here is the labor, materials and design, if it's chosen.
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On a completely different avenue, I would talk them into a detachable panel , and done in your domain, then attached to the wall. I think you could create a better distressed look, do a better job, and could be serviced easier in the future......If they are intent on the mural look, I would consider a hvlp touchup gun at about 70.00 from harbor freight to serve as a large airbrush. You won't be sorry on this size of job. They expell just the right amount of material for this type of work, and have the control of an air brush. Use the airbrush for the fine detail. Watch for any overspray floating in the wind with either gun. I saw a company pay over 400 thousand bucks in settlements, getting on cars because of floating paint up to a quarter mile away. Hope you land the job...Jack
-------------------- "Don't change horses in midstream, unless you spot one with longer legs" bronzeo oti Jack Davis 1410 Main St Joplin, MO 64801 www.imagemakerart.com jack@imagemakerart.com Posts: 1549 | From: Joplin, MO | Registered: Mar 2000
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Linda, You might think about stippleing some mud and some other fine debries on in little spots and then paint over all. Then take a large scraper and scrape over the who mural to remove odd chips in various areas. If you miss a few they will fall off eventually anyway. Just a thought. Jack
-------------------- "Don't change horses in midstream, unless you spot one with longer legs" bronzeo oti Jack Davis 1410 Main St Joplin, MO 64801 www.imagemakerart.com jack@imagemakerart.com Posts: 1549 | From: Joplin, MO | Registered: Mar 2000
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That's another great idea Jack! I'm not sure what their "vision" of old is. they did say they didn't want it faded or anything...I'm at a loss hahaha! I'll find out what they want when I get there, I did put in the bid, a hundred dollars an hour to smack it with a wire brush hehehe. I hope I don't have to do that for too long!
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Love to see the concept Linda, then I could comment a little better, but it sounds very interesting.
Also love to see you "smack it about with a brick" but wouldn't recommend it.
One way I get "airbrushed effect " on a wall is to use the ole "underpainting" trick. When you brush artwork onto a brick wall, the paint inevitably collects in the morter lines which makes the bricks stand out even more, so brush or roll your basic colors in and then apply the deeper shadows and stronger highlights with a " big Gun" airbrush.
See page 3 (not the gallery) on my web site, the big art of the puppie has been done this way. robclark.net
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