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I've always enjoyed the design side of what we do, I've made a living out of it and nothing else on several occasions and used colour and layour principals on plenty of other occasions in many other related fields, but after completing the preliminary issue of my own house plans I have to say that design of this type beats graphic design hands down. Combining 3 dimensions, time, colour and layout while considering budget, practicality and aesthetics is a fantastic mental exercise. I can easily see why some architects become so single minded with their designs during construction and finishing. Once you start, problems begin to present themselves and require you to think your way around them to the best possible solution with consideration to all the factors mentioned above, the solutions then present the next layer of thought... The design was relatively easy, now comes the hard part, getting it through the obstructive, slack jawed dimwits in the local authority... always another challenge to look forward to. Back to the drawing board, David
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I'm sitting in my cubicle right now and the reason I'm reading this BB only 30 minutes into the day is because I needed a break after I learned what problems lay in the future on the current building I'm working on....
Just like you said... when you dig deep into an architectural project you realize all sorts of issues and problems.. and the worst part of it is now I have to alert 6 other people and a project manager on the job about these problems.. Then we have to schedule a meeting with the architect to discuss how to resolve it.
Talk about throwin a monkey wrench into the machine...
I'm at the company (Harmon) doing contract design and engineering work. We design/engineer the windows on commercial buildings and this one so far has been a real pain in the butt.. It has to withstand a bomb blast since it's a court building, under new construction codes brought about by the Oklahoma City bombing.
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Hi David. We're up to armpits in this right now.
Having been planning an extension for over two years. It's now actually happening.
We've put ourselves into debt for the rest of our lives (and our children, probably) so that we wont have to live in a shoebox any longer.
There are half a dozen workers here during the day. In the last three weeks we've gone from a clear backyard to the finished framing. Now for the roof, windows etc.
All the time spent originally mulling over design variations at leisure. Now it's the opposite. As the building goes up, issues come up and have to be decided upon quick. Real quick. I find it a bit unerving. I like to look at every angle and possibility and spend plenty of time dreaming of variations. Now it's a fast ride requiring snap judgements.
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Hahahahahahaha maybe that explains why all the architects I have met have been sort of 'wacko'? (kidding....just kidding) ------------------ surf or MoJo on mirc Cheryl J Nordby Signs by Cheryl (206) 300-0153 Seattle WA.....! signsbycheryl@hotmail.com A day without sunshine is like, you know...nighthttp://signsbycheryl.homestead.com/home.html http://mojosignco.homestead.com/home.html
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I can totally relate. I just went through a month of making quick calls on everything while my shop was being built. I couldn't shop fast enough. Not normally a terrible problem this shopping thing, however when you're pushed to make quick decisions, you do and you hope like heck you like what you've chosen!
So far pretty good here. However I'm looking forward to sitting back and not having the door knocked on or phone ringing in the near future.
I've always adored the sound of hammer and nails banging in the yard. It means something good's about to happen!
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Mike... Why inform the project manager, all that he/she will do is create all manner of hue and cry before passing it sideways to someone else and getting down to the real business as far as they're concerned, which is absolving themselves of any possible blame. I'd rather winge about Project managers than architects David
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Well, in this case the Project Manager is on my side (work right next to him).
In this field (curtain wall-glass/aluminum facade of commercial buildings) Project Managers, engineers and designers work closely together and have a pretty tight work relationship.. the architect is our enemy. =) There is definitely no abundance of qualified help in this field as there is no formal schooling related to this field, so anyone that is involved in it must be good at every aspect from management, to design, to engineering.
------------------ Mike Pipes -----trapped in a box with a computer and a slice of cheese-----
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when we re-build our house after a fire sum years back i learnt a few things.... my builder had to be on mandrax, and i had the only engineer on the planet that couldnt measure! still amazes me how sumone can LOOSE a whole bathroom, i had to show him pics of the burnt out one before he would beleive me that it really had been there when he looked at the burnt out dwelling the week before! and what did he think i was gunna do in a laundry 600mm x 800mm? ummmm thats right, ooops it does have a 1 in from of the 6 duh! now i do know that he was the exception to the rule buttttttttttttt what a wally! i remember askin my mum HOW she managed to build 3 houses over time with ppl like this on the planet? she just laughed and said you learn to scream silently on the inside
glad your having fun dave
ps: my back verandah and deck plans are in council as we speak.... wish me luck!!!
regards gail
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Hay, I'd high-five everyone of ya if you could reach through the monitors...hahaha! I won't bore you with the similar nightmares I've waded through here...but you should try this lifestyle when you're learning to be vertical all day with no stopping places. If you can still move around normal, count your blessings! ...and some folks wonder why it's taking me so bloody long to unpack my universe, hehehe
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