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We have a customer that wants a picture from his website put onto his vehicle.We made him a few but he wanted them larger.We made them the same size as the ones on his site but cannot figure out how to make it 24" instead of 6". We have an edge and omega program is there something else I have to use to take a downloaded pic and enlarge it to the size I need? Thanks in advance for your help.
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Hi Randy, Blowing up a jpeg from a website 400% isn't a pretty thing. I'm tempted to say it just won't work at all, especially if it's anything with lettering on it, it'll be a garbled mess. Those are usually 72dpi or maybe 96 dpi at best. That'll be about 18dpi enlarged, scary.
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it will be full of jaggies, no way, he has to give you a high resolution pic.... JPEG are LOSSY compression.
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If he has a pic on his website, then he'd have the original of the pic, or so my optimistic logic says. Get that and work with it if you can. If it's basic, you could blow it up in Photoshop and 'recreate' it on another layer, setting the new document's resolution to say 300 pixels per inch. A 72 ppi blown up to 300 to print will look way too out of focus as the printer has to 'invent' the in-between pixels. Running 'Unsharpmask' helps a lot just before printing too- it'll improve pretty well every scan.
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I have done that with pretty good results by leaving the picture small and letting the edge enlarge it in the output . That way gerber will do the best it can. set it on process colors and gerber tone photo set some cut lines and output a piece of it if you like, in case you don't get what you want there won't be so much waste. Bill
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There are a couple of products that will enlarge bitmaps with no apparent loss of resolution. One of them is VFZoom from Celartem at http://www.celartem.com
There are no jaggies in the finished image.
They used to have a demo download at their site. The product itself is about $150, I think.
Personally I think it is a useful product. Vic G
-------------------- Victor Georgiou Danville, CA , USA Posts: 1746 | From: Danville, CA , USA | Registered: Dec 1998
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In my opinion Victor G. has the best solution if superior quality is a must.
Through experimentation I found if using Photoshop's "Unsharpen Mask Filter" mentioned above after scaling, it is good to run the filter twice. Once with high radius-low amount and then low radius-high amount the second time.(Possibly reversing the order of commands I just mentioned)It acts like tune and fine tune. Sharpening of an image should be performed 99% of the time after scaling an image larger or smaller.
This will help if you have to go that route.
If the author of the image can send you a .bmp(which is rgb only) or a .tiff or .eps it would be much better since a .jpg has already been compressed at least once.
-------------------- Alan Ackerson LetterWorks Design and Graphics alan@ack2.com Posts: 776 | From: Oak Ridge, NJ | Registered: Aug 2002
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Hope the following helps someone. Here is what I do with web graphics.
Download the graphic
Save as a tif
Reduce size by 50% without resample
I use Photoshop 6
In channels, all three, rgb, gausian blur by 0.5 pixels.
In unsharp mask, first set amount to 500% Radius to 0.1 pixels Hit OK Second set amount to 6% Radius to 200 pixels Hit OK You may have to tinker here for best results.
Make adjustments to contrast/brightness as your eye demands.
Print the results on matt photo paper at best setting your printer allows.
Scan the result at 400% at 400 dpi.
You should then have artwork that can be fondled with in many ways.
If I have to manually retrace, I scotch tape the tracing paper to my monitor screen over an enlarged version of artwork.
I may get better results by changing the artwork to greyscale and raising the contrast and then saving and bringing it in to Adobe Streamline to vectorize.
This method at least gives me artwork that I can reasonably manipulate.
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Hey Victor, that VFZoom looks absolutely amazing. At first glance, I'm highly skeptical, but then I'm constantly amazed by the new stuff that comes out. Thanks for the link.
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