I have blocked out the names of all the named description parts of every letter, which is darkened. The darkened spot is what you will try to name.
For instance the letter "q" has a blocked out space and in that space you would put the word "descendar". Ok...that one is easy. Also the line below the "hijlkmn" is called a "base line"...but what is the line called that is above that? Do you know?
If you know who hand painted this chart, and know what magazine it was printed in and what year and month, you will prove you have the "right" stuff to teach "Letterheadism"
a = ? b = ? c = ? d = ? e = ? f = ascender (no brainer) g top = ? g bottom = ? h = ? i = ? j = dot ( no brainer k = ? l = ? m = ? n = ? line above the n = ? line below the n = base line (no brainer) line through the o =? o = ? p = ? q = descender q top = spur ( I'll give you that one) r = ? s = ? t = ? u = ? v = ? w = italic ( I'll give you that one also) x = ? up and down arrow by x = ? y = ? clue...sometimes you scratch yourself here! & = ? z = ? ae = ligature ( that one is a killer)
Bonus question: What New Jersey Sign Professional hand painted this age old typography chart?
Tripple bonus question: What magazine, year, month and page number is this chart pictured?
Here are the names of the parts...you have to match them with the letters! ----------------------------------------- tail arms crotch x-height waist-line stroke italic hairline-stroke axis swell bowl descender spur link crossbar spine counter swash serifs carrots stem shoulder brackets entrance-serif and exit-serif bar ascender ear knob stress base-line loop ligature dot and another bowl ------------------------------------------
Good luck Letterheads!
[ May 28, 2003, 11:00 PM: Message edited by: Dave Draper ]
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As for the lettering artist.... my guess would be the world famous (and really neat guy, besides) Al Zanetti
So... do I win a prize?
-------------------- Bruce Bowers
DrCAS Custom Lettering and Design Saint Cloud, Minnesota
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It was a well thought out alphabet with a lot of effort put into having every feature named, in an old Signcraft magazine- but do you think I can remember which one!!! Good test tho'!
-------------------- "Stewey" on chat
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Excuse me Mr. Draper, but was my answer not clear enough for you? The only thing further I'd mention here is I think the "u" would appear better without that non-contrasting (black) center. Also, I think the "a" & "e" are too close together on the bottom.
-------------------- Bill Cosharek Bill Cosharek Signs N.Huntingdon,Pa
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Imagine my surprise when I signed on to the BB this morning! I stayed off the post until now so as not to tip the answer. I have the original of that piece hanging in my living room so I did't think it was fair if I played.
Thanks Dave, he would have greatly appreciated the "reminder".
-------------------- Kimberly Zanetti Purcell www.amethystProductivity.com Folsom, CA email: Kimberly@AmethystProductivity.com
“Organizing is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it is not all mixed up.” AA Milne Posts: 3723 | From: Folsom, CA | Registered: Dec 2001
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Excuse the off to the side shots but I didn't want to remove the glass to avoid the glare from the flash.
-------------------- Kimberly Zanetti Purcell www.amethystProductivity.com Folsom, CA email: Kimberly@AmethystProductivity.com
“Organizing is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it is not all mixed up.” AA Milne Posts: 3723 | From: Folsom, CA | Registered: Dec 2001
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I was digging out some old magazines and this isuue fell on the floor and opened to this very page.
I looked at it, and thought, that is so kewl, I don't even remember it!
I scaned it and printed it out on the Edge, 12 inch ( 1 foot square), mounted it to a piece of Sintra and mounted the Sintra, 45 degrees on a 4" PVC pipe 4 feet tall, and it greets people as they come into our shop!
You dad was very special. I never got to meet him and I will be forever robbed of that experience. You are his legacy now. Thanks for sharing this piece of history and residing here in Letterville!
Good detective work Barb. We know who to ask now when we need to find ANYTHING! You have a gift.
Bruce...how did you know? Lucky guess?
Bill, good luck on the next TRIVA pursuit!
[ May 29, 2003, 07:20 PM: Message edited by: Dave Draper ]
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Are the answers gonna be in the next Official Not-for-profit Letterhead Organization Monthly Newsletter? I forgot to send in my dues, can I still play? Dang.
-------------------- "A wise man concerns himself with the truth, not with what people believe." - Aristotle
Cam Bortz Finest Kind Signs Pondside Iron works 256 S. Broad St. Pawcatuck, Ct. 06379 "Award winning Signs since 1988" Posts: 3051 | From: Pawcatuck,Connecticut USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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I'd love to see a picture of it hanging in your shop.
BTW, you are now on my list of Letterheads, including Ray Chapman and Bill Riedel who can make me smile and bring tears to my eyes at the same time.
Speaking of Bill...haven't seen you post in a while...all okay my friend?
-------------------- Kimberly Zanetti Purcell www.amethystProductivity.com Folsom, CA email: Kimberly@AmethystProductivity.com
“Organizing is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it is not all mixed up.” AA Milne Posts: 3723 | From: Folsom, CA | Registered: Dec 2001
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So, hey Kimberly... What am I? Chopped liver? LOL! Just don't make me eat chopped liver...
Have a great one!
-------------------- Bruce Bowers
DrCAS Custom Lettering and Design Saint Cloud, Minnesota
"Things work out best for the people who make the best of the way things work out." - Art Linkletter Posts: 6469 | From: Saint Cloud, Minnesota | Registered: Jun 1999
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You, Mr. Bowers, were going to get your very own private email! I was impressed but not surprised that you hit the nail on the head.
-------------------- Kimberly Zanetti Purcell www.amethystProductivity.com Folsom, CA email: Kimberly@AmethystProductivity.com
“Organizing is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it is not all mixed up.” AA Milne Posts: 3723 | From: Folsom, CA | Registered: Dec 2001
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Thanks for the closeup picture, Kimberly. It proves my 1st answers to be correct. I'm just defending what I know, unless my sources are incorrect. See the lower-case "x" & see the indication of x-height to the right of it? The size of the lower-case "x" is used to indicate "x-height". And the line which indicates the height of non-ascending lower-case letters is known as the "x-height line". How many typographical sources do I need to provide in order to prove this? Below is one.
Well ... I thought I had a source for the line name but at least I got the "x-height" letter right. I know I read somewhere of the "midline" also refered to as the "x-height line". But, of course, now I can't find it.
The following website provides much info on Typography.
Search for the tutorial called: "Anatomy of the letterforms". In it you'll find many examples showing two-tone letters similar to Kimberly's Dad's chart.
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A poster or print sounds like a fine idea but I have neither the capabilities, energy, finances or time for such a project any time soon. If anyone out there in Letterville has the capabilities to produce such a print, I'd be happy to work with you to do it.
-------------------- Kimberly Zanetti Purcell www.amethystProductivity.com Folsom, CA email: Kimberly@AmethystProductivity.com
“Organizing is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it is not all mixed up.” AA Milne Posts: 3723 | From: Folsom, CA | Registered: Dec 2001
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Hi Kimberly, yes, this old guy is still well and keeping busy. Came close to checking out when riding a Quad (off road 4 wheel vehicle) it flipped foward and over throwing me about 20 feet down the side of the mountain. It started sliding down hill and the wheels got stuck in a depression and away I went. Believe it or not, I walked away with only a bruised knee. My son now calls me Evil Kneivel. Everyone gets a big laugh out of the fact that a 75 year old guy flipped the quad.
You have contributed so much to this forum that youhave a special place in all of our hearts. Al certainly produced a very special person in you.
We all are very thankful for all you do.
Bill Riedel
-------------------- Bill Riedel Riedel Sign Co., Inc. 15 Warren Street Little Ferry, N.J. 07643 billsr@riedelsignco.com Posts: 2953 | From: Little Ferry, New Jersey, USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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