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Don Hulsey
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I am going to paint this logo
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30' wide on a 135' diameter tank, 85' from ground to bottom of logo.

I am planning to start Monday, so I have already made a plan of attack, but I thought it would be kinda fun to see how everybody else would do it.

Include pricing if you like.

I will let you know how I did it after I am finished.

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Don Hulsey
Strokes by DON signs
Utica, KY
270-275-9552
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I've always been crazy... but it's kept me from going insane.

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Since the O and G aren't the same ovals, I'm guessing, waste the paper and make a pattern. Price....ain''t enough money. Are you swinging down from the top or going up from the ground? Kathy thought maybe you could project off a drone. Let us know how your doing this foolishness and stay safe.

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Tom & Kathy Durham
House Springs, MO

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Don Hulsey
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I'll be on a stage between 2 sky climbers hanging from the top. I'll let you know when it is done. Hoping to get a few "in progress" pics.

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Don Hulsey
Strokes by DON signs
Utica, KY
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Dave Grundy
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I don't know how or why you'd do that job!

Change the 's to " and I'd do it for around $400!!!!! [Rolling On The Floor]

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Dave Grundy
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I say make a Pounce Pattern.
I am curious to know what Paint you will be using.
According to the 1990 Official SignWriters Pricing Guide, it said $2,100. I would be comfortable charging $6,400 providing the patterns & painting.

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Kevin Betz
KB Sign Company
21321 Ulrich
Clinton Township, MI 48036
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Gosh oh mighty, I was I was closer. I'd sell tickets. I'd have a big banner that reads, "Watch dis fool paint a sign!"
Boy oh boy, If I was dong that job,,,,the prep alone would kill me.
When it's all done, you have to post a picture.

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Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl)
Tacoma, WA
Since 1987
Have Lipstick, will travel.

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Curt Stenz
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Wow.

A real painted sign, Looks like a lot of fun but at the same time quite a challenge.

Forget patterns or projection, the scale is beyond that. I would make a good scaled drawing and grid it out at 2 or 4 feet increments.

Get yourself a good helper that can read a tape measure and is familiar with this sort of work.

I would do this with bulletin enamels, and rollers.

The letters ‘O’ and ‘G’ will be the most difficult aspect of this job.

If this monster is fabricated with identical size panels, this is to your advantage.

Price is a guess but I would not touch it for less than 6 - 8 thousand.

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Curt Stenz Graphics
700 Squirrel Lane
Marathon, WI 54448

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Don Hulsey
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It may be a little longer before it is finished. I am following the contractor that painted the tank and they are providing the rigging. I was planning to start Monday morning, and they are planning to set the rigging Monday morning. It will take about 6 hours to get everything set, and now they are calling for rain Tuesday thru Thursday.

Rigging will be a 2' x 32' stage between 2 sky climbers. I will have a helper to run one sky climber while I run the other one. They have to run together to keep from losing the stage.

The paint will be a 2-part paint with a pot life of about 30 minutes. I will throw brushes away after each mix. Even MEK will not clean this stuff out of a brush.

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Don Hulsey
Strokes by DON signs
Utica, KY
270-275-9552
sbdsigns@aol.com


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How would I handle it? I'd pass instantly. You might be the only one I know capable of doing this. I used to know a father son team over in Arkansas that did this sort of work but the father has to be dead and the son up in years. The size of the logo and the fact it is on a curved surface and the letters are round compound the difficulty.......nevermind it's way up in the air.

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George Perkins
Millington,TN.
goatwell@bigriver.net

"I started out with nothing and still have most of it left"

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Rick Sacks
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Will you work a three foot section across the top and then lower the stage and work your way down? I'd like to approach it working from the middle out, but that involves moving the rigging way too much. I would also make a pattern of half the O from 10' tyvek perforated with an electro pounce and big holes. All the curves could be on one pattern and identified. You could go over the pattern with a rattle can to mark your lines. The logo at that height could probably be cut clean enough with rollers. I'd think the price would be over six grand for the painting.

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The SignShop
Mendocino, California

http://www.mendosign.com

Making the simple complicated is commonplace;
making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. — Charles Mingus

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Curt Stenz
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Half patterns of the O, that is a very good idea. The rest of the job is actually quite straight forward.

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Curt Stenz Graphics
700 Squirrel Lane
Marathon, WI 54448

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Don Hulsey
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Alicia,

You are more than welcome to come sell tickets, and take pictures. I am looking for someone to take pics from start to finish on this one.

George,

It is not quite as curved as you might think. The 32' stage will be less than 2' from the tank on each end.

Rick,

The half pattern IS a good idea, but you would have to make one for the G also. If you look close the outside of the G is slightly elongated to the right.

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Don Hulsey
Strokes by DON signs
Utica, KY
270-275-9552
sbdsigns@aol.com


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Rick Sacks
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I tried to make it clear...I'd make one pattern that would have both letters on it. It would be the right half of the O and the right half of the G. The pattern can be flipped over for the left side of the two letters that are the same.

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The SignShop
Mendocino, California

http://www.mendosign.com

Making the simple complicated is commonplace;
making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. — Charles Mingus

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Preston McCall
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Wow. Working that high means high price. Considering the size of the logo and the height, I would have bid it at 6500, and extra for the crane to get up there.
I did a 40' from the bottom TRUCK CENTER on a brick wall, nicely painted with little mortar recess using a bucket...maye 20 foot wide, two lines with outline...ten years ago, for $4000 plus the bucket. Planned on it taking a week and banged it out in two days using Metalatez SW and 3" & 9" rollers. That was a nuce week, but the bucket was a bit scary upthat high in the wind. BEE CAREFUL!

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Preston McCall
112 Rim Road
Santa Fe, New Mexico
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Hire Kenny Rodgers or his twin brother Silverbird.

Maybe Slappy Hooper...

Take the inspector along for the ride, because $50 is $50

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Bill Diaz
Diaz Sign Art
Pontiac IL
www.diazsignart.com

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Mark it on a mesh, hang the mesh, mark through the mesh working from bottom up, cut 3 foot of the mesh and paint, then repeat upwards.
Gaffa or magnets.

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Stein Saether
GullSkilt AS
Trondheim

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WHY, WHY ?


"THE U.S. BUREAU OF ENGRAVING AND PRINTING - U.S. CURRENCY"

( According to the Federal Reserve, there is more than $1 trillion worth of Federal Reserve notes in circulation. )


THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOT PRINTED ENOUGH MONEY YET, NOR WILL THEY,EVER,TO PAY ME TO GET ON A STAGE OR WHATEVER YOU ARE GOING TO GET ON, TO DO WHAT YOU ARE INTENDING TO DO.

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Ricardo Davila
Showroom Window Advertising
P.O. Box 1376
Edmond, Oklahoma 73083

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stein Saether
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The fear of heights disappear when one is higher up than 9.8 meters.

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Stein Saether
GullSkilt AS
Trondheim

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Don Hulsey
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You are kinda right Stein, but I have never had a fear of heights, but I DO have a major respect for them from 4' on up. I wish I had left out the part about the height... just How would you do this layout and paint at this size on a painted metal surface? Actually it turns out that the 85' is to the top of the tank wall, so I won't be as high as I originally thought.

The rigging is finally set, and tomorrow's temp is supposed to be in the 50s, so it looks like I will get to start in the morning.

I should have a description with pics by the end of the week.

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Don Hulsey
Strokes by DON signs
Utica, KY
270-275-9552
sbdsigns@aol.com


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Sure looks fun, Don. Having others provide the staging and paint sure reduces your responsibility and the anxiety level as long as you're working with people you can trust your life to. I assume that you've done some testing with the two part paint and seeing that they don't eat up rollers? I hope you have no breeze to transport a drip 300 feet away to where a Mercedes is parked.

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The SignShop
Mendocino, California

http://www.mendosign.com

Making the simple complicated is commonplace;
making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. — Charles Mingus

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I quoted a job like that for a water tower when I had my shop in Georgia.
I bid $3,682,475.00
the city manager wanted to know why so much money.
I just explained to him how I had to drain all the water,
hire a big arse crane company, cut the legs and lay it down
on its side.
then, $14,235.00 to make a vinyl paint mask, application tape
and 12 new plotter blades.
a crew of ten to install the mask and roll out the colors.
$685.00 disposal fee at the landfill for the used mask and
application tape.
then the crane crew comes back and stands the tower back up
and the welders fasten the legs back into position and refill it.


oddly enough, I didn't get the job.

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John Smith
Kings Bay Signs (Retired)
Kissimmee, Florida

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Rick,

One of the guys that set the rigging is working up there with me, so that helps a little on the trust part, plus I went up and examined everything myself. The paint does destroy brushes, roller covers, and frames, but they last long enough to finish each mix of paint. Even if we were only 30' up, a drop of this stuff would dry before it hit the ground straight down.

John,

I have never gone quite that high before, but I have tripled my price in an effort to avoid a job, and still got them.

They did not finish the rigging until 1:00 today so all we finished was the layout. We plan to start painting at 11:00 tomorrow to allow the temp to rise a little before painting. I will try to get pics and a full description posted by the end of the week.

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Don Hulsey
Strokes by DON signs
Utica, KY
270-275-9552
sbdsigns@aol.com


I've always been crazy... but it's kept me from going insane.

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