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Gerald Barlow
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I'm sorry to break into this lovefest (and I do love you guys). I have a project of guilding a small image on some metal tubes (canes). I would like to use computer masks to size thru. I'm finding that the guild adheres...well that's not right...the guild lays on the background and is very hard to remove. I just want to size thru the mask, remove the mask and guild when it's appropriate. Seems simple. If I have to clean up the bkg its a mess. I know about kaolin, potatoes and such...comments?

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Gerald Barlow
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Okay, so you got regular paint mask. I would use good old Ronan or 1-Shot size. The water based stuff not only seeks up under the mask, it gets raggy around the edges. After it tacks up a tad, ya pull off the mask and guild as usual. Now when you say, "Size through the mask" what does that mean? As for the gold sticking to the background,,,,gots to be clean and bone azz dry. Any hint of tackyness is gonna pick up the gold. Maybe try dusting it a bit with some baby powder. But just a little dusting using a dry brush. Gosh, it you weren't so far, I'd come out there and show ya. Oh, is this real gold or composition leaf? 23K gold with stick to a single molecule of moisture.

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Why not cut an 1/8" outline on your mask, apply your size, then pull the outline leaving the rest of the mask on and then guild the letters. This way the mask is still in place to block the leaf from sticking where you don't want it.

This way you will only risk getting the gold to stick in the the outline which will be covered when you do your actual outline.

[ December 03, 2017, 04:54 AM: Message edited by: David Thompson ]

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David Thompson
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Wow, cut an outline on the mask... what a great idea.

For cleaning off any stray gold, use a soft rubber pencil eraser (the kind we had in grade school). Rub gently, this usually works and will not harm the background.

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I sure like David's method.

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Wow, David...that's the best ider I hurd yet. This is a Harley namestyle and letters are about 1/4 inch tall...and its on a cane/tube. outlining would be a beach. (hard) Will try the outline idea. I have two masks available. Calmask and a french one from Hexis that is thinner. I like hexis' one but its hard to manipulate.
Chica, thru the mask means thru the mask. I usually get a rough edge tho and the size makes this risky when removing the mask.
Its a dumb job but i don't have much work and i thought I might try it. Thanks guys, Jer

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'licia; I just read what I posted and it doesn't make sence. I mean size in the physical sence not the varnish glue. I'm afraid I might rip the whole letter (s) off. Jer who is still learning.

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i used a mask with an outline around the graphic or letters on car windows..
Lay the mask down and then lightly dab in the size.
Then remove the outline part of the mask
Then guild. Let dry for a while and clean it up. the edges were perfect.

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I've used mask with the outline technique a number of times. A key to getting a nice edge on the gilding is to remove the outline fairly soon after applying the size. That way, the edge of the size smooths out. If you leave the outline on until you are ready to gild, you'll have a raised ragged edge.

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Two,ways to get rid of the gold that sticks where it doesn't belong.
1. Don't wash your face the day you will be removing the stray gold. Take your finger rub your nose, then rub the "nose oil" on the gold. It willl come off easily.
2. Take a q-tip and put a small amount of furniture polish on it. Rub it on the stray gold.

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