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I bought a new can of Kool Crimson one shot(needed a darker red color)and did some lettering with it on a sign(bibond). Darn crap isnt drying. Painted about 10:30 am and its still tacky big time at 8:00 pm. Crap! All my other oneshot drys pretty fast. The kool crimson was mixed good too.
I have been meaning to try some Ronan. Got a color chart and price sheet from them already.
Im west coast so no one carrys it. I'll have to buy direct from Ronan back east
Is Ronan a way better paint then this newer one shot ?
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Rick, I have been using Ronan for 2 years now and will never go back. It is a pain if you need a can or two, but I plan ahead and order plenty of inventory.
I still have some 1-shot that am using up. The other week I experienced the same drying problem with some 'bright red', lettered in the morning and it did not cover well at all, could not double coat until the next day.
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I have had the same problem with Red 1-Shot, but I have since fixed it. I use 1-Shot hardener in the paint. I lived in the cool dampness of the Great Northwest.
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I'm also on the Ronan train and will not go back to One Shot. I know Ronan lettering enamel is harder to find than their bulletin colors though. I too had to order direct from Ronan. And I've also had problems with One Shot red drying. I used some Ronan red on 18 golf tee signs and it was dry to the touch in less than half a day.
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Many of the Ronan colors don't have as good a coverage as 1-Snot, and require a second coat if using for background colors. They do lay out real smooth and glossy, and dry. I recently bought a gallon of Chromatic background white and looked at the invoice (which I seldom do) and see that we're now spending $80 on that product?
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I've read here that spritzing hydrogen peroxide on tacky paint will often get it to dry to the touch. I had some aqua paint that wouldn't finish drying and tried it and it worked.
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I remember when there were color standards. If I bought a can of 102, from several manufacturers, they'd all be the same. Doesn't seem to work that way anymore.
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Yep, colors aren't the same. Big difference between Ivory One Shot and Ivory Ronan. Ronan doesn't have as large a variety of colors as One Shot but I mix what I want most of the time anyway.
Bulletin paint is cheaper because it's designed to be a background paint for billboards. Pigment content is lower than lettering enamels. This info came right from the chemist of the manufacturer.
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quote: Bulletin paint is cheaper because it's designed to be a background paint for billboards. Pigment content is lower than lettering enamels. This info came right from the chemist of the manufacturer.
Right on ! Just what I needed to know
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I was also told the same thing by a higher up at one paint company. He also said the components are of lesser durability because they were designed for the old bulletins that would only be up a few months before they were painted over with a new message. He said they will chalk quicker.
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As far as color standards, I believe that years ago, before digital billboards, EVERYTHING was painted, and the Outdoor Advertising Association was at the forefront of maintaining these color standards. Sort of like a prehistoric version of Pantone.
As far as brown, I never liked any of the browns available. Always mix my own, usually Ronan scarlet red (1-shot fire red) and black.
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