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James Donahue
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As long as we're talking about paint, I thought I'd pass this along: Rust Oleum has a latex called Ultra Coverage. I've tried it a couple of times, and am quite pleased. The first time, it helped A LOT. I'm going to try and post a link to a page I made about a mural sort of project.
Mural
It's a "pocket door" that slides into a wall. It's perfectly flat, but they wanted it to look like a ridged metal boxcar door. The Ultra Coverage is the for the white letters. The challenge is that since there are 3 types of "white", there are a lot more corners in each letter, and they all had to be TIGHT. So naturally, I DID NOT WANT to do 2 coats. I didn't have to. It's a lot like water based lettering paint that you can get at (Home Depot?) Now I think Wal Mart has it too.
The painters here know that old coverage trick; where you add a little silver to your white, to get better coverage, right? Works perfectly fine as long as you don't overdo it, and as long as there's no true white around to compare it to. Well, this is similar, the out of the can white is the parts "facing up". The main body of the letters has a little black added, and the parts "facing down" have still more black added.
I needed some water based paint for lettering concrete at a sports stadium, tried the Ultra Coverage there too. Very bright color, and good enough coverage if handled carefully. Kinda runny.

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James Donahue
Donahue Sign Arts
1851 E. Union Valley Rd.
Seymour TN. (865) 577-3365 brushman@nxs.net

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Rusty Bradley
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James...you know nobody had commented on this so I pretty much passed it up...but when I did open the "mural" link I was simply amazed...no way would I ever have thought that the door was a flat pocket door...you really nailed it...magnificent.

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Rusty Bradley
Bradley Sign Studio
100 Creekview Road
Summertown, Tn. 38483

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I looked again...that can't be a flat door...that is total perfection...now that takes some skill...
nice job.

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Rusty Bradley
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i like the pocket door.....iam putting in a door in the new bathroom, not a pocket but will be a slider interior mounted. AM THINKIN OF SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE DOOR........

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That door is fantastic !

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making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. — Charles Mingus

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Clever work, James!

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James Donahue
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Thanks a lot guys. It's funny how a job like this progresses; actually the first credit has to go to the customer who requested it. If they had said "Do something RR related on this door" I'm not sure if I would have come up with this idea.
It's kind of paradoxical, in that I was striving for realism, but I had to make all kinds of adjustments to make it happen. Real boxcar doors are obviously wider, so I had to select certain features to get the look, and the name is never on the door, it's on the wide body part. Maybe you could call it "faction" like some novels. On a related note, the really old boxcars have better doors that some middle aged ones. Way back when, the dock workers didn't have forklifts, so they had to open the doors by hand, or with pry bars. Nowadays, they often use the forks of a forklift to push the doors open, and they can get pretty beat up. Another related note: RR freight equipment is allowed to be in use for 50 years. regardless of how much or little use it's had. I guess it's a simplified way for the FRA to deal with all the cars out there.
Compliance can be annoying, but when you read about those places where there was an earthquake, and 6000 people died in 25 seconds, it's usually because someone was skirting the safety codes.

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James Donahue
Donahue Sign Arts
1851 E. Union Valley Rd.
Seymour TN. (865) 577-3365 brushman@nxs.net

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The perspective is what would trip me up - very complex - fantastic job! Thanks for sharing the info. about the paint too.

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Kathy Weeks
Weeks-End Signs & Graphics
Lake Elmo, Minnesota

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