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Kathy Weeks
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Hi gang - I am installing a 13" x 68" dibond graphic panel inside a store front window. The panel will sit on the bottom of the window sill, against the glass pane. There is a wood frame on the inside on either side of the window.

I need suggestions on how to affix the panel - from the backside if at all possible - so that it presses against the window, and will stay in place.

Wing nuts on the frame won't work - too much gap between wood frame and substrate.

I don't want to use silicone or clear vhb tape between the window and the panel - it will show through the window and look tacky to my customer and sidewalk pedestrians.

Maybe some kind of backside wire strung across the back, or spring, or grid, or duct tape around perimeter?

No body will see the back side - it is hidden under a cabinet.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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Kathy Weeks
Weeks-End Signs & Graphics
Lake Elmo, Minnesota

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Dale Manor
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Have access to hang the sign?

http://www.displays2go.com/P-17952/Cable-Hanging-System-for-Ceiling-Mount-Use

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Dale Manor

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Dale has the perfect idea. I have hung them using just eye hooks and small chain but that system looks slick [Smile] Hanging is better tham resting in my opinion

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Bob Rochon
Creative Signworks
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Kathy Weeks
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Sorry, I can't hang this panel.

The customer is a jeweler and renting a suite in an old, old building (1800's), and there is a display shelf built inside in front of the window - the shelf is supported by a wood frame on each side underneath the shelf, and the shelf actually sits butt up agains the window, so there is this small space of 13" below the shelfs edge, and as wide as the window.

The previous renter (also a jeweler) of this suite had his logo in gold vinyl applied 2nd surface to this space under the window, and then one piece of black vinyl was applied 2nd surface over the logo and entire space, so it looks like a black panel with the logo in the center.

I don't want to use the same technique because this new jeweler has alot more copy to go with his complicated logo, so if I apply his logo and copy/lettering 2nd surface to this window space, then cover it with black - I'll get that very small air gap around the each letter, and this customer told me he will not go for that.

I made a template out of corrugated plastic and dry fit it into the space, and it will work good to use a dibond panel, but I just want to make sure the panel will stay put and not fall backward out of the space/framed area.

I don't need it to be iron-clad tight in there, just snug against the window.

I hope that makes sense?

Maybe just tacks or some hardware nailed into the frame on each side - like framing a picture?

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Kathy Weeks
Weeks-End Signs & Graphics
Lake Elmo, Minnesota

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Kissymatina
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How big is the window?

You said he won't go for the space around the letters... is printing a decal in reverse that will cover the entire window an option?

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Chris Welker
Wildfire Signs
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Kathy Weeks
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The space I have to fill in the window is 13" high x 68" wide.

I don't know if I have any print vendors that can print in reverse/2nd surface as an opaque - the stuff I've seen is a little transluscent, and I need it to be solid opaque - not let any light through.

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Kathy Weeks
Weeks-End Signs & Graphics
Lake Elmo, Minnesota

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I've done this kind of mounting using white or gray double sided tape. Tacky? Not my work! The trick is to use good design— a border with corner ornamentation that includes the tape as an almost unnoticeable design element.

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Frank Smith
Frank Smith Signs
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Kathy Weeks
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Ah, I never thought of that idea - Thanks Frank!

Can I ask what kind or brand of double sided tape did you use?

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Kathy Weeks
Weeks-End Signs & Graphics
Lake Elmo, Minnesota

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Another option would be to use a spring-loaded shower curtain hanger. These have rubber ends like cane tips. These are usually tubes that fit telescopically into each other with an internal spring that is compressed with the tension of the spring holding the bar up. You could use one behind the dibond panel to keep it in place without any visibility from the street side.

Available from WalMart

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays-7-16-Spring-Tension-Rod-28-48-Brass/20612038

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Ken Henry
Henry & Henry Signs
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Kathy Weeks
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Another good idea - Thanks Ken!

Thanks folks for the great suggestions - I have the confidence to install this panel now, because I have options in my pocket!

I have to do the install tomorrow or Monday - I'll let you know how it turns out.

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Kathy Weeks
Weeks-End Signs & Graphics
Lake Elmo, Minnesota

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Chuck Churchill
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A couple of 12" pieces of angle aluminium. One down each side with.VHB tape or screws into the frame. You can hold it tight to the glass or let it sit a little loose. Paint or vinyl the aluminium to make it blend with the wood frame and/or the back of the dibond.

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Chuck Churchill,
It's A Good Sign Inc.
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Burlington, Ont.
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