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I've been asked to make a sign for the new offices of a big building concern that I make apartment signs for...below you will see their logo in black and white...the main man loves the idea of using the logo as a blueprint to construct a realistic house in a finished and unfinished phase...I have 2 questions.
Design...the entire sign not counting the rock base measures 5'x 8'...it will be a miniture house...one side finished off and the other side unfinished with open framing...just like a real house might look...I'm thinking about making the house wide enough so as to incorporate windows on either side of the porch...I think if the proportions...length to width...are that of a real house it would be most effective...what you think.
Price...the company will build the rock base...I'm not sure what I will make the little house out yet but I'm open to suggestions...it is double sided and all 4 signs will be sandblasted HDU with woodgrain backgrounds...you can use the bottom sign in the picture as your yard stick...it is 8'long.
This guy loves the idea and has asked for a price...I have no idea...whatya think...also I'm really open to ideas on how you would build the little house and type of materials would be best.
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Seams to me that the FRAME should be waterjet cut out of metal. Then attach every other layer on to the metal frame.
-------------------- John Arnott El Cajon CA 619 596-9989 signgraphics1@aol.com http://www.signgraphics1.com Posts: 1443 | From: El Cajon CA usa | Registered: Dec 1998
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Not much input from me other than I love the idea and your rendering so far. Should make for a great looking sign.
-------------------- Joe Diaz Diaz Sign Art 628 W. Lincoln Ave. Pontiac, IL 61764 www.diazsignart.com Posts: 538 | From: Pontiac, IL | Registered: Aug 2005
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I would ask the customer if they have a budget amount for the sign. You could do something very simple like a contour cut out shape with a digital print or you can go full 3D. That's quite a price range between the two methods. BTW, I am thinking you showed the other side of the sign will have the image flipped on the house if the sign is contour cut. Looks like a great sign. Looking forward to seeing the photos.
-------------------- Jean Shimp Shimp Sign & Design Co. Jacksonville Beach, Fl Posts: 1266 | From: Jacksonville Beach, Fl. USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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I asked input from Dan Sawatsky and he suggested I bump my price from $150 sq.ft. up to $200. I can do $200 per square with hand carved detail and some gold leaf but around $100-$150 per sqft is what the market will bear here. I think I would figure in your price at $200 or more. That does bring the price to be $8000 and up.
-------------------- Jeff Wisdom SignWorks info@oregonsignworks.com Posts: 450 | From: Oregon | Registered: Dec 2005
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It will be 5' x 8 ' ....got that Rusty, but what are you thinking as far as depth? I would agree with having a welder make up the framing with square tubing and suggest composite decking material for the siding. The roof line could be wood; the welded tubes can handle a 'faux wood' paint job; the windows...hdu or wood backed up with acrylic/plexi. Just for 'funsies' slip a couple solar lights in behind so the lights come on at night. Boy it's hot out here today! Looks like a fun job. I have no idea what to charge; I'd look at material cost and try to estimate time, then go from there...but you'll probably be in the $8-10 thou. mark (welders aren't cheap) Ummm Rusty...You know if you do this job, you'll absolutely have to share the photos with all of us!!!!
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Shirley...What a great idea...the solar panels in the windows would really be a neat addition...thanks
I thought the depth should be roughly half the length...I'm thinking I would like it to look more like an actual house with signs on the house as opposed to a sign in the shape of a house...probably wide enough so as to incorporate 2 windows on either side of the front porch which in the pic above is the far left side of the sign.
Looks like most of you guys see the frame being made from aluminum tubing...in my sign making I have little experience with metals so let me ask a stupid question...Do I attach all my other building materials to the frame with sheet metal screws?
Jean...thanks for the idea about the digital print...although less of an impact and less of a challenge...it sadly might be the way that this job goes.
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Joe makes a good point about the porch size...
Rusty, what about approaching this as if you were dooing the two halves seperately and then locking them together with the roof?
A welder would then construst the skeleton side of the sign, you could fabricate the finished side, pretty much any way and out of anything you are comfortable working with, then the two sections would come together with the roof added on.
Just a thought. If you were looking into the structure from the skelton side, would you see into the finished side? Or would you see just a blank surface?
Having the blank surface would enclose that half of the house and give you a hidding spot for any wires, lights etc you might add and contain the light within. (less likely vandals would mess with it, if it weren't too easily accessible).
The only thing you'd have to attach to the welded frame would be the IRBY sign panel. And yes, I would use metal screws painted to blend in.
-------------------- Shirley Carron Black Sheep Designs 184 John St. N. Arnprior,On.,Canada shirleyc@magma.ca 613-623-7053 Posts: 503 | From: Arnprior, Ontario, Canada | Registered: Nov 2001
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