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David Thompson
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I'm redoing a hatch for a boat that the lettering will be done in GL with a large oval background of a sunset scene. As cost is a factor, I will be doing the job with 1-Shot.

Normally I would do the leaf first and then the outlines, but because of the airbrush work in the background (which I might just use my touch-up gun) I'm not willing to risk to masking freshly done leaf. Also due to the shape I'm somewhat worried if I can mask the background while doing the leaf to keep the excess gold from sticking to the 1-Shot, although I would much rather repair the background than the leaf.

Does anyone have a trick to keep the gold from sticking to a freshly painted background? I was think talc might help.

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David Thompson
Pro-Line Graphics
Martinsville, NJ

I'm not this dumb, it's just the paint fumes talkin'

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Jerry Starpoli
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Raw Potato

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Jerry Starpoli
Starpoli Signs... since 1952

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Mark Matyjakowski
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If there is an outline to the lettering you could mask with just sticky-ing the outline.
Cut a piece of paper the shape of the letter (or letter+outline reversed out of paper) then cut sticky mask of outline+ to stick the paper down.

if that makes sense the way I typed it

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Paul Jordan
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Egg white is another way of keeping gold from adhering to fresh paint. Just a coat over the area of concern, when that is dry apply size to area that needs gilding. After gold has been applied wash off egg white with water.

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Paul Jordan
Jordan Signs
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"We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing" George Bernard Shaw, I think.

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Ed Gregorowicz
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Second the egg white... only dilute it with 50% water.

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Ed
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or dab on some Whiting, finely powdered. It's a bit dustier & messier than eggwhite, but drier.

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Tim Barrow
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Rick Glawson always told us to use kaolin(a very fine powdered white clay) and or whiting as Stewey suggests.Whiting is a bit grainier and tends to clump up in the size,...try letterhead supply,...Ron and or Kristie will have something more than likely,... Letterhead Supply

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Tim Barrow
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I've tried the potato and egg white and have fount the Kaolin Power to be the best for me...Just put on a light dusting, lightly blow off access and size. Once guilded just wash off with clean water...

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Pat Welter
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Unity, Saskatchewan.Canada

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Kaolin powder I find is the best! I have used whiting from the beginning but prefer Kaolin as it's not grainy and cleans up well, fine lines remain smooth no ragged edges.

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Len Mort
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David Thompson
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Thanks everyone!

Is there a type of store I should look for the Kaolin Powder? I hope to do this in the next couple of days, so I was hoping to find it locally.

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David Thompson
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Can't help you there, but eggs are universally available.

Think I even saw on TV last night where you can get 'em at Denny's with toast and bacon for $4.

:B

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Ed
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(do you get a gilded tomato with that too, Ed, or just a variegated leaf one [Wink] !)

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I prefer my eggs over easy! [Smile]

But it works. And you can use the yolks to make a cool omelet.

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I prefer my eggs scrambled, don't break the yolks!

[ April 15, 2010, 12:33 AM: Message edited by: Len Mort ]

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Len Mort
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Mark Matyjakowski
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how long (dry time)should someone wait before applying egg, potato or powder over fresh one-shot?

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I could just see my husband's face as I was grabbing the egg out of the fridge. "Are you gonna make breakfast.? "No, it's for a sign."

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Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl)
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kaolin is basically a fine powdered clay for making pottery any local potter should know and or have a source.

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Tim Barrow
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Kaolin is also used as a base for many cosmetics.

If you Google Kaolin you will find many suppliers in and out of the country.

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Len Mort
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