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I have a customer who's into Rat Rods, I have lettered 3 trucks for him making the lettering look old and worn. The easiest and fastest way I've found to do this, is to cut the 1 Shot with their clear to leave a lot of brush strokes. I also wipe a few places with a rag while wet and then almost dry brush over it. In the end it comes out looking nice and weathered.
I would like to take it a step further and get a nice flat finish to it, The last truck I threw some dust from the floor on it to knock the shine down, but was not really happy with that.
I just got a call from him needing a truck done Monday or Tuesday. Is there a flat clear that I could buy at a body shop supplier, hardware or home center that would work for this application ( mixed with the 1 shot, not applied after)? I know 1 Shot makes a flat clear, but the chances of my local supply shop carrying it is slim to none, they are geared to mostly vinyl sales.
Even an additive I could use to flatten the 1Shot w/ 1 Shot clear would help.
-------------------- David Thompson Pro-Line Graphics Martinsville, NJ
I'm not this dumb, it's just the paint fumes talkin' Posts: 396 | From: Martinsville, NJ | Registered: Oct 2001
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Any body shop supplier has a flattener for synthetic enamel which will work with 1-Shot mixed in yet not a clear coat. Some urethane flatteners won't mix up well but most all others will.
-------------------- HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952 'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'
Baby powder, sprinkle it litely as it doesn't take much, when dry it will be flat, then take a water wet towel and wipe it clean, done...
(lots of rat rods here, technique works great)
-------------------- Frank Magoo, Magoo's-Las Vegas; fmagoo@netzero.com "the only easy day was yesterday" Posts: 2365 | From: Las Vegas, Nv. | Registered: Jun 2003
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The flattening agents Joey mentioned should work with the One Shot clear also.
I use a method similar to what you do. I cut One Shot with a clear polyurethane like sold in hardware stores. I add baby powder to this to flatten the gloss. The automotive flattening agents work better, I just keep forgetting to pick some up.
-------------------- George Perkins Millington,TN. goatwell@bigriver.net
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One shot dulls out pretty good all by itself these days doesnt it?
But I like the baby powder method myself.
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I'll add this: most types of powder will work such as Talc, Cornstarch, and powdered chalk but only if the body shop supplier is closed. I have a lifetime supply of off-set powder I use on my hands while striping which also can be used for flattening paints.
And for Joe Golden I'll add this: When one uses a product the same way as they have forever although the formulas have changed, new problems arise. 1-Shot doesn't have to dull if one were to add resins to their paint for flow as well as extra gloss like what's found in ChromaFlo which 1-Shot will be adding to their line-up soon, after removing it in the past.
My problems revolve around having to much information at my fingertips whereas not enough memory left in my banks
-------------------- HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952 'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'
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just stripe it and pull it out in the sun for bout a week
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OneShot still makes the Chromatic flattening paste. Go to their site and find details under products/additives.
-------------------- Kent Smith Smith Sign Studio P.O.Box 2385, Estes Park, CO 80517-2385 kent@smithsignstudio.com Posts: 1025 | From: Estes Park, CO | Registered: Nov 1998
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quote:Originally posted by Marty Happy: Okay.... dumb question here.... do you mix something like baby powder into the paint before application or dust it onto already applied paint?
You mix into the cup before application. It takes a little experimentation to get the right effect. It basically turns lettering enamel into poster. It dries flat, dries much quicker and therefore your working time in the cup is also much shorter.
-------------------- George Perkins Millington,TN. goatwell@bigriver.net
"I started out with nothing and still have most of it left"
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I use Universal Flattening Powder FP-5 by Ink Dezyne it is made for enamel screen inks and is very fine for mesh count 310 - 400. Adding to lettering paint, it blends smooth.
It does a great job and is pretty forgiving for matching future jobs to past, the value all seem to match well.
-------------------- Sam Staffan Mackinaw Art & Sign 721 S. Nokomis St. Mackinaw City, MI dstaffan@sbcglobal.net Posts: 1694 | From: Mackinaw City, MI | Registered: Mar 2004
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This is why I'm so thankful to be alive to experience as much as possible, experience not limited to physical movements alone, but trips thru ones mind, one question results in a wide swath of logical/practical answers, all correct, depending on ones views and background...for instance:
Mary wished to know how to apply the baby powder that makes all enamels flatten, George replied by mixing, which is correct, it works.....now, it's also acceptible to apply from pouch bag, by bagging semi dry enamel and then letting it cure before cleaning...this trick was used by signwriters of past, to emulate gold mostly, but powder was found to flatten, hence technique today, voila.....ain't life grand???
-------------------- Frank Magoo, Magoo's-Las Vegas; fmagoo@netzero.com "the only easy day was yesterday" Posts: 2365 | From: Las Vegas, Nv. | Registered: Jun 2003
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