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I just bid on a 48"x 120" Grand Opening banner and 48"x48" sandwich sign. I got the sandwich sign, but the client bought a 48"x96" banner on line (shipping included) for $19.99...is that even possible? It is, cuz he showed me his invoice. WTF? Of course, it's a piece of crap, but still...
[ May 15, 2008, 03:40 PM: Message edited by: Terry Baird ]
-------------------- Terry Baird Baird Signs 3484 West Lake Rd. Canandaigua, NY 14424 Posts: 790 | From: Canandaigua, New York | Registered: Dec 2002
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The piece of junk won't last long and he will be back looking for something that lasts. You get what you pay for eh! I bet the sandwich signs last forever
-------------------- Anne McDonald 17 Karnak Crescent Russley Christchurch 8042 New Zealand
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Yep, especially generic banners like that can be had cheap, and how long does it need to last anyhow? Even more upsetting is the customers I have that are getting their CUSTOM banners online for about my cost.
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Poly banner flexo printed like the garbage bag political signs. Probable costs $5.00 and most of that's sewing the rope in.
-------------------- Bill Modzel Mod-Zel screen Printing Traverse city, MI modzel@sbcglobal.net Posts: 1356 | From: Traverse City, MI | Registered: Nov 1998
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Had a kid come in this morning asking about a price on a "poster". I told him $50 and he said we were high. He said he could get one done at Walgreen's for $20. I asked if theirs would last 3 years outdoors. Apples to oranges.
-------------------- Ricky Jackson Signs Now 614 Russell Parkway Warner Robins, GA (478) 923-7722 signpimp50@hotmail.com
"If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants." Sir Issac Newton Posts: 3528 | From: Warner Robins, GA | Registered: Oct 2004
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$20 for a "grand opening" banner is pretty common. My wife gets POP catalogs on a regular basis for her retail business. You'd be surprised at whats available at those kinds of prices.
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I have often thought of making a few "Grand Opening" banners and either rent them out, or offer them for "free" rent when they purchase all the other signs from me.
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www.creativebanner.com page 61 of catalog: GRAND OPENING/NOW HIRING/NOW OPEN/SALE/OPEN 3 FT X 5 FT =$16.99 3 FT X 10 FT =$25.99 FOR 1, 6 0r more $19.99 resale em for $50 each.....
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Tony, I rented one and go it back in the same shape that it went out. Just never had much of a call after that. I should have made up 'GOING OUT OF BUSINES" ones.
-------------------- Laura Butler Vision Graphics & Sign 4479 Welch Rd Attica, Mi 48412 Posts: 2855 | From: Attica, Mi, USA | Registered: Nov 2000
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quote:Originally posted by Laura Butler: Tony, I rented one and go it back in the same shape that it went out. Just never had much of a call after that. I should have made up 'GOING OUT OF BUSINES" ones.
Yep, it a seems there is more of a demand for going out of business signs than grand opening signs.
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it seems like when they go out of business they just leave...not like the furniture stores that "go out of business" for months , then decide to open back up under a different name.
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well now. What material is he using? I just saw a $29 buck special.. it was made from the remains of a billboard stretch sheet. With material costs at zero why not sell em cheap.. and then use them as a loss leader..
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the CREATIVE BANNER ones are the same poly plastic that the COKE/PEPSI banners are.CHEAP........
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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I am getting to where I dont even touch banners anymore. Especially when the competition buys that cheap crap on a roll and they just roll it out and letter it. no hems, no sewing, i cant compete with that.
if i cant order it printed, i dont bother
-------------------- You ever notice how easily accessible people are when they are requiring your services but once they get invoice you can't reach them anymore
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same here Bruce. I used to do quite a few banners but cannot compete with the low prices of other companies. If I can't make money, i just decline.
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the PRINTERS are what is taking the banner sales to new lows. the least i can do a banner for on 8 0z material would be $4 sq ft, and that is for other sign people or someone i do a lot of work for. i mainly stay in the $5.50-$7.00 range. got printers in this town RETAILING banners at $2-3 sq ft mulitcolored.
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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A couple of years back I had a customer who had a cheapo banner digitally printed. It faded in about 6 weeks. He brought it to me and I wiped it down with TiCote and painted right over it. I used the printed banner as its own pattern, so it was basically a paint-by-numbers job. He's had it up for 3 years and it still looks good. I think I charged him $200 to repaint it. He didn't gripe about the price - he'd already learned what a cheaper banner was worth.
-------------------- :: Scooter Marriner :: :: Coyote Signs :: :: Oakland, CA :: :: still a beginner :: :: Posts: 1356 | From: Oakland (and San Francisco) | Registered: Mar 2001
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quote:Originally posted by Ricky Jackson: Had a kid come in this morning asking about a price on a "poster". I told him $50 and he said we were high. He said he could get one done at Walgreen's for $20. I asked if theirs would last 3 years outdoors. Apples to oranges.
....then he asked if he was free for dinner...
what a freak
Terry, in all honesty, my "red flag" was that you had to "bid" on a banner to start with.
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LOL, Jake you dork!! It's insanity to me to spend $30,000 on new equipment just to sell it cheaper. I get $5 lineal ft. for 15" cut vinyl or $7 ft for 20" cut. Why in the world would someone spend thousands of dollars on a printer, software, training and consumables that will be obsolete in 5 years to sell a product at half the price a $2,000 vinyl printer doing simple (i.e. less time) cut lettering can do? That's a long sentence so someone will have to break it down for Jake.
-------------------- Ricky Jackson Signs Now 614 Russell Parkway Warner Robins, GA (478) 923-7722 signpimp50@hotmail.com
"If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants." Sir Issac Newton Posts: 3528 | From: Warner Robins, GA | Registered: Oct 2004
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quote:Originally posted by Jon Butterworth: I just hand painted in ink a 15ft x 3ft banner including a 3 color logo in 4 hours! $400 !!!
Material cost: Peanuts! maybe $20 worth ink and thinners.
Experience cost: Priceless.
Ewwwwwwww, I still remember the smell of vinyl ink to paint banners and the countless brain cells it killed. I love the smell of 1-Shot and especially Edge but vinyl ink... no thank you.
-------------------- Ricky Jackson Signs Now 614 Russell Parkway Warner Robins, GA (478) 923-7722 signpimp50@hotmail.com
"If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants." Sir Issac Newton Posts: 3528 | From: Warner Robins, GA | Registered: Oct 2004
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-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Hi Jake, It's just my terminology. Any time I give an estimate, I've always called it a bid. I bid out a job.
-------------------- Terry Baird Baird Signs 3484 West Lake Rd. Canandaigua, NY 14424 Posts: 790 | From: Canandaigua, New York | Registered: Dec 2002
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quote:Originally posted by bruce ward: Especially when the competition buys that cheap crap on a roll and they just roll it out and letter it. no hems, no sewing, i cant compete with that.
$3 psf doesn't allow much time for sewing, taping, layout, or spelling. You know they're selling cheap when they're taking orders away from the Coca-Cola Company.
-------------------- Pat Whatley Montgomery, AL (334) 262-7446 office (334) 324-8465 cell Posts: 1306 | From: Wetumpka, AL USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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