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Jillbeans
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I'm painting a Caravagio sign blank.
It's pre-primed and I painted the background a week ago with 1S Dark Blue.
Decided to use masking for the gold size because I am not great at gilding. That part actually went real well. I masked it, applied the Rolco quick size and gilded it today.
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OK so now I remove the masking (Oramask 810) and wherever the masking covered the 1S the background is now hazy.
Will this go away? That mask couldn't have been on there for more than 45 minutes.
Just wondering and trying not to panic.
Love.....Jill

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Monte Jumper
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Jill ...sometimes it will sometimes not.

We never leave a mask on any longer than it takes to cut and paint...unusual tho that the background has been painted that long and still picking up the texture of the mask.

Give it a day if it doesn't disapear you may have to clear coat the entire job (product of your choice) just be careful and mist it on or you'll wrinkle your gold (size stays soft a long long time)

Just be careful you'll be alright.

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Dark blue is a slow drying color. The haze may or may not go away. I know that's not much of a help. If it hasn't left by this afternoon, it's there for the duration. I would think though, that after a week it'll leave.


edited to add Monte types faster:)

[ September 05, 2007, 12:18 PM: Message edited by: George Perkins ]

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Joe Cieslowski
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My only experience is with urethane coatings. I frequently get the same results, Jill. I have found that a quick rub with a soft cloth and a little butchers wax does the trick. Then wax is solvent based so I try not to rub it on the fresh gild......though I've not had a problem.

I don't know if this will work with 1Shot......maybe try it in a corner [I Don t Know]

Hope this works for you,

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Is butcher's wax not mineral oil and beeswax, and isn't that a temporary cover-up (at least for outdoor stuff)?

I wonder if an automotive polish by hand would work, something with a light cutting action.

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What I would do, I will cover with super gloss tinting clear my gold leaf letters and let it dry till tomorow Once is dry apply with a fine cloth a coat of "Meguiars" Mirro Glass and polish by hand and that will get rid of what ever you got from the mask.
I hope this Helps.

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I wonder if a Hair Dryer would help? You could also try asking manufacturer about the characteristics of mask.

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I've set it out in the sun for a few hours.
Then I took a bit of Rapid Tac 2 on a paper towel and wiped up as close to the lettering as I dared, and that seems to have helped somewhat.
Tomorrow I outline the gold leaf so we'll see how noticeable the ghost is afterwards.
Love....Jill

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Monte Jumper
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Jill...I happened to think later! (imagine)If the area covered did not cover the whole panel and you're seeing a patch of texture...I have covered the entire panel with mask and let it set for a couple hours (even overnite) then removed it and had a nice even matte effect on the background...Be careful not to get bubbles in the mask or thay will really show.

Not sure you can get away with doing this over the gold ...altho you could protect it by cutting a paper mask (like copier paper no adhesive) to cover the gold then apply the masking over it all.

Can you picture this? hmmm

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Once I had a similar problem i used a 3m green kitchen pad to buff the entire sign except the gold keeping a few mm away from that.

Nowadays all my signs have matte paint behind the gold,
I find it is better gold giving maximum contrast to matte paint.

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Perhaps reapplying Mask to other areas would create similar finish/texture if that would be something that could be acceptable.

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