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I got a couple calls this week to do some nice panels. The first thing out of the customers mouth was, "I can't believe you answered the phone". Seems they are trying to get some work done but they continually get answering machines or a phone clerk who is not competant for the job.. (in this day and age of cells ?) Anyway, I just got a nice panel job because the customwer was desperatly calling around tyring to get a firm answer. Yes or no could it be done. He couldn't wait speculating on a return call. Yes I can do it by the weekend. Yes I will meet with you this evening. The job is MINE!
On the other hand..
I been trying to get some guilding supplies since Dixie. Not much only about $130 bux worth.. At first it was a casual approach calling every now and then but getting answering machines or a order taker who didn't give me answers with confidence. I dont wish to spend the time waiting for and working with something that "might" work.
Now that I NEED the supplies I call and still continue to get the machine or when I do get a live person they are just a clerk who says "come on down and we will see what you need. Frustrating!!!.. Now I will bypass known suppliers to call around to find what I need. No more time for bullscat..
No, I will not drive down to see if you can match something, no i will not leave a message and wait for someone to call me back. I do not have the pleasure of being able to accept a call back just any old time. Why? because while at an appointment I will not answer the cell,,,
I do not want speculation whether I can get what I need. I must have a positive answer if I can get the supplies. Yes or no. sheesh...
You just gotta answer the phone.
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quote:Originally posted by Curtis hammond: I do not have the pleasure of being able to accept a call back just any old time. Why? because while at an appointment I will not answer the cell,,,
quote:Originally posted by Curtis hammond: I do not want speculation whether I can get what I need. I must have a positive answer if I can get the supplies. Yes or no. sheesh...
You just gotta answer the phone.
Just a little contradicting don't you think?
If this customer had called while you were in an appointment, you would have been just another answering machine too.
It's a tough call, and I too rarely answer the phone if I have my hands full or if with a client at the time. I will return a message when I have a chance, but I can't be sitting by the phone all day waiting for that "cherry" job. Sure, maybe I'll miss getting a job from someone who wants me at their beckon call, But that type of customer might be a real PITA and I might have just saved myself from the aggravation that could arise.
-------------------- Tim Rieck Signs Halfmoon Bay, BC Posts: 736 | From: Halfmoon Bay, BC, Canada | Registered: Sep 2000
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quote:Just a little contradicting don't you think?
NOPE.. like I said,, continually getting an answering machine.. as in call after call.. for days..
I perfectly understand an occasional message system.. but not for days,, or even weeks,,
This is a FYI post for all of us. There is more than a few of us who are allowing work to go elsewhere because of failing to answer them phone calls. Hpw much does it cost to get them calls?
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Upgraded the phone system at the shop this year and one of the 'benifits' is that everyone now has Vmail. What this means in effect is that you will get answering machines. Unless I am actually sitting at my desk I won't pick up the phone (won't even hear it) but each and every time my phone rings it is indeed for me, and every call does get returned. At first I wasn't sure I liked the system, but now that I'm not married to the phone I find my time in the shop to be much more productive. I deal with phone calls at a time of my choosing and not when I'm in the middle of doing something else. People who are themselves used to vmail are more likely to leave detailed useful messages that help a job progress, often needing no followup other than a quick reply to their vmail or and email response. Another huge benifit is that all calls are directed, no-one wastes time taking messages for anyone else.
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If I am here I answer every phone call..telemarketers get a curt, offensive reply, all others are handled in an appropriate manner.
When I am away on a job, I check my messages (using the cell phone) and reply to all as soon as possible. (within a few hours).
If you don't answer or reply ASAP then you WILL be losing business.
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Before signs I was in computer sales for some large manufacturers. In 87, 88, 89 I worked for a startup out of Portland, Oregon. Less than 200 employees when I started...about a 1000 when I left. They had built their company culture to get everyone to answer the phone before the second ring because it just might be a client ( or future client) that needs an answer to something. I saw internal meetings when a phone would ring. Five people would spring to their feet and go for the phone as soon as it rang. Allowing the phone to ring twice was considered a violation of company policy. The policy did a great job of making everyone aware that the customer comes first.
In my little shop we always interrupt our activity and answer the phone. After all it just might be a customer that wants something.
-------------------- Chuck Churchill, It's A Good Sign Inc. 3245 Harvester Rd, U-12 Burlington, Ont. Phone: 905-681-8775 Fax: 905-681-8945 Posts: 633 | From: Burlington, Ontario, Canada | Registered: Nov 1998
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Thats great Chuck, but who gets priority? The customer in front of you with whom you are in a discussion, or the unknown person on the other end of the line?
-------------------- Mike O'Neill
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If I am away, my phone is forwarded to my cell. If you don't believe what Curtis is saying, just compare your caller ID with your voice mail. The difference is very educational. Many will hang up rather than leave voice mail. It's a fact.
How many of you are willing to leave voice mails? Think about it.
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If you're with a customer & the phone rings... he'll/she'll understand. Inform them you are there alone, excuse yourself, answer the phone, take a QUICK message & call them back after the "live one" leaves.
If your phone rings constantly... consider a receptionist.
Not real complicated.
-------------------- Michael R. Bendel Bendel Sign Co,. Inc. Sauk Rapids, MN Posts: 913 | From: Sauk Rapids, MN | Registered: Jul 2005
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Curtis, have you tried Letterhead Sign Supply? Their number is (800) 531-3359. I've always reached a real person when I've called during business hours and they are able to answer and suggest the best gilding supplies for my project because they know a lot more about gold leaf than I do!
-------------------- Dawn Ellis Signs by Dawn Long Beach, CA signsbydawn@aol.com
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yes, dawn,, they have been very informative and very helpfull.. Answered dozons of questions for me,,
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i can attest to what curt is saying. i have an answering machine, when iam awake and outa the office i forward the land line to the cell, been doin this since i got the mobile signs shop. PEOPLE WANT TO TALK TO PEOPLE.... everybody is tired of answerning machines, voice mail, or some other way to get messages without DIRECT CONTACT. i dont usually get started before 10 am. i let the answering machine catch the early callers.....i will tell you this....i get messages some times or just caller I.D. and buy the time i get to call them back 10:30-11:am....MOST HAVE CALLED SOMEWHERE ELSE......and got the job taken care of.....
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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quote:If you're with a customer & the phone rings... he'll/she'll understand.
I humbly disagree, by taking a call you are disrespecting the customer who took the time to come to your establishment. The customer may politely 'understand' but in effect you've said 'this call is more important than you'. Even before we had vmail my staff was instructed to hold calls or take messages if I was with a client.
In this day & age when productivity is expected to be high, most people have learned that vmail is part of the business world and deal with it effectively by leaving detailed messages.
It might well be that the differences in our opinions regarding telephones might be a reflection of our client bases. My customers are mostly large industry corporate and vmail usage is part of their daily routine, in fact when I call them most of them have vmail.
-------------------- Mike O'Neill
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not being arrogant, I rarely am here to pick-up the phone. and Ill be damned if Im going to forward my work phone to cell phone. If its needed that bad I aint got time to do it and theres a big chance they aint going to pay upfront to have it done.
RUSH JOBS LEAD TO ONE THING....PROBLEMS!!!!
I like to deal with contractors, builders and developers. these guys usually dont need something tommorrow. I dont answer cell phone in banks, restaurants or any other in-store public place. thanks to caller ID though alot more people are getting my cell and they call it b4 they call office. If i recognize the number I just push end.
One thing that irritates me more in todays world is people trying to rush everything! .......and have you noticed the people that rush you are the same ones who you have to beg to be paid!?
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Hiya Curtis, I can understand where you're coming from. I had to deal with a similar situation the other day when I went to the home improvement store to replace the springs on my garage door. Just trying to find competent answers from anyone about anything these days is like pulling teeth. I also have to agree with Mike. Remember the old saying "a bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush"? And Bruce, I’m impressed with your cell phone etiquette! Too bad there aren’t more like you.
Havin' fun,
Checkers
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With regards to taking a call while you are with a customer, I must say that I agree with Mike O'Neill. As a consumer myself, I really don't appreciate it when someone interupts any dialog with me to take a call. I do politely accept it, but I don't like it. It does send the wrong message.
Thus, when I have a customer here, I rarely answer the phone unless it's something that needs immediate attention, or can be handled with a quick response.
Funny, I've actually been with a customer here, where they are the ones answering their cell phones during my time with them, and then talk at length. That's just rude.
My thinking is, if I'm giving fully of my time, and not getting other things done in my busy schedule, ... so should they.
I had a customer here once that I found myself waiting at my own office for them to finish conducting their business on their cell phone. I ended up getting up and doing something else at my shop while they were done. I even made some phone calls of my own. I did mention it to them when they finally got off the phone.
If I've made an appt. for a time slot with a person, I'd appreciate the entire slot. hahahaa My time is valuable and scarce too.
I started detering such situations by telling people that I had a window of time for them before I had another appt. In essence, I put a ceiling on our time. This way, they know they have me for only a period of time, and they can choose how they spend that. Chances are it won't be on their phones with someone else while I twiddle my thumbs.
As for not answering the phone when customers call. I'm guilty of that, but have been trying to get better. It's difficult to be one person, and handle things with the focus they deserve. I've lost jobs because of it, which isn't good. But worse is the reputation that you are hard to get a hold of, or you don't return phone calls. I don't like it on the recipricating end, so I'm aware of it and I return calls promptly. Still, it's difficult to juggle everything sometimes.
~nettie
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I ALWAYS answer the phone even when I have someone here. Everyone can tell that I am "juggling" people and time and everyone respects everyone even if we all have to do so in fast forward sometimes.
-------------------- Frank Smith Frank Smith Signs Albany, NY www.franksmithsigns.com Posts: 807 | From: Albany, NY USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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I don't think there is one right answer, but for those of us who wish to juggle, I think in my case it is done such that is generally does not offend anyone. I always say either "do you mind if I take this call" (never got a "NO" yet) or "excuse me while I arrange to get back to this person when we're done"
I don't have people in here on appointments, they are walk-ins, & sometimes 2 or more are here at once & they can see I'm busy. I have always heard (& experienced) that being (or appearing) busy can be good for commanding respect & control of negotiations from price to my scheduling availability.
I have transfered my shop line to my cell every night & lunch break for 6 years. I also put in a $500 intercom dialer outside my door. It is set to uses my fax line for dialing my shop line number. Whenever my door is locked, people see the labeled "Call" button by the speaker & when pressed, I answer my cell phone. I can then give them my arrival time, or notify them if I am 5 minuites away at the hardware store or the bank.
One good job this year came from some desperate convention attendees on a Saturday night while I was watching TV. It only took a few minutes away from my TV show, but I chose to invest my Sunday meeting them & saving the day for them. I could have said no, but for $5K with a 50% deposit, I said Yes! I have aquired several good repeat customers by being the one who answered the phone, & I know this, because like Curtis mentioned, they have explained in frustration how many other shops don't answer the phone.
Besides the bathroom, one of the only other times I refuse to answer the phone is when I am eating cereal. I HATE soggy cereal!
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In having worked in various customer service positions in my previous work I know the value of an immediate personal answer. Answering the phone within 1 or 2 rings is very important along with professionalism: Joe's Custom Signs, may I help you? or "Thank you for calling Joe's Custom Signs" rather than - "Hi, this is Joe"
I too have invested in call forwarding, this enables me to forward it to my cell phone and I have received some important calls while away.
People want to talk to people, someone that sounds like they know what they are doing,and be shown they are important and you value their business.
Many clients that I have talked to that have been getting a machine at other shops are relieved to talk to a real person.
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