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Like a car wreck... I went back to chat tonight because we/I just have to look.
The usual, haha, we all know the joke & you don't, nananananana thing prevailed..., but some of the "slackers" actually spoke! I think I've gone from 7th grade to 9th grade!
I can only hope the seniors will let us in the cool group stuff this year. Oh my god... yer soooo cooool!
We need more participants!
Too be honest... it's juvenile & boring as hell unless you like to listen to guys that have NEVER been laid & love fart jokes.
I am as bad as anyone.. well not as bad as OP & the Rev... hahaha, lol, hehe, snicker, rof & all the other online laugh tracks.
No really, we need more participants!
It is fun... but really screwed up!!! LOL, hahahaha, whew, hehehehe, , , hmpph... wtf?... ROF... hehe, bmsm, ayk? hs! u mst b ntz! IPMP so bad I HTCT. But wait... My MDTL & I am ready to PLI18YOA! What u talkin bout Willis?
I'll let the newbies in on the lingo... OMFTFWUA!
Peace out!
-------------------- Michael R. Bendel Bendel Sign Co,. Inc. Sauk Rapids, MN Posts: 913 | From: Sauk Rapids, MN | Registered: Jul 2005
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Funny, I've been on chat and never experienced that of which you speak... maybe a different channel? Cat
-------------------- Catharine C. Kennedy CCK Graphics 1511 Route 28 Chatham Center, NY 12184 cck1620@taconic.net "Look at me, Look at me, Look at me now! I't's fun to have fun, But you have to know how!" Posts: 2173 | From: downtown Chatham Center, NY | Registered: Feb 2004
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About a week ago you made a similar Post Michael, and new people did show up and asked where you were? You invited new people said personally you were would welcome them. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you graced chat with your presence until last night. Last night I went in for a bit, not much going on for conversation, After a while the room picked up and really got going. When I left sometime before midnight it seemed to be going real well.
Like Last night sometimes I leave it in the background while I'm working on things like layouts.
Just like most things, they are what you make of it.
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-------------------- Bob Rochon Creative Signworks Millbury, MA 508-865-7330
"Life is Like an Echo, what you put out, comes back to you." Posts: 5149 | From: Millbury, Mass. U.S. | Registered: Nov 1998
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I've dropped in on & off over the last 5 years, & there is a core group that chat often. Many others like myself are just occasional visitors, but I've never sensed or heard anyone "needing" more folks or needing to make something different out of it. Always seemed fine as it is to me.
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Strange posture to take.. There some other brand new chatters there and they seem to like the fun, the social life and the ability to give and get new ideas. Its all give and take. So if you wish to "give" you must be able to "take" as well.
-------------------- Leaper of Tall buildings.. If you find my posts divisive or otherwise snarky please ignore them. If you do not know how then PM me about it and I will demonstrate. Posts: 5274 | From: Im a nowhere man | Registered: Jul 2001
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Letterville Chat is the only room I have ever visited. I have gleened a wealth of knowledge from all of the "seniors" as well as the newbies.
I am unable to spend any amount of time there, but I must say that I would compare it to a live interactive tech support team for sign makers. Much like a live meet. I have personally met most of the "tech team", (Curtis even came here for lunch once) I think it is a great resource for learning and knowledge. Plus, it allows me to ask specific questions without feeling stupid.
Because I know them, there is much less danger compared to a traditional "internet chat room" which makes me feel more comfortable because I am not communicating with strangers.
Although.....have you met Si yet?
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""Good judgment comes from experience; and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" - Will Rogers Posts: 3486 | From: Beautiful Newaygo, Michigan | Registered: Mar 2003
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I've spent a fair amount of time in chat, and here are my observations, in no particular order:
1. Whining is not a good strategy for getting to know people.
2. Friendships take time to cultivate. Get used to being the odd man out for a while if you are new to chat.
3. Don't worry about cliques, or consipiracies. It's not productive. As people get to know you they will open up more.
4. Be careful using sarcasm or talking smack to people you don't know well. On the other hand, don't start throwing insults if you get teased a little bit.
5. The mood and ambiance of the chat room will change as different people come and go.
6. Sometimes people like talking shop, and sometimes they don't. If you bring up a topic and nobody responds, save it for another time. Don't take it personally. As a rule you'll get further if you try to talk about paint and gold leaf rather than vinyl and coro.
7. It's easier to talk shop in "side chat" (private messages)
8. When there seems to be no activity, sometimes people are having side chat conversations.
9. The earlier the hour, the milder the crowd. As it gets later, the conversation gets racier
10. It's good to make a list of nicknames and who they belong to.
Chat is what you make of it. The crowd can be friendly or hostile, depending on your perspective and your input.
My mind wanders. And that's not a good thing, 'cause it's too small to be out there alone. Posts: 3129 | From: Tooele, UT | Registered: Mar 2005
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Wow, from your description, I'm wondering what room you went to instead of letterhead chat.
quote:The usual, haha, we all know the joke & you don't, nananananana thing prevailed...,
I've never heard anyone taunt anyone else like that in our chat. I've heard people ask questions about a comment that is made that is referring to something that was said when that person wasn't there. That happens in any group, get used to it.
quote:but some of the "slackers" actually spoke!
Any conversation has lulls, it's a normal part of life, get used to it.
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quote:I think I've gone from 7th grade to 9th grade! I can only hope the seniors will let us in the cool group stuff this year. Oh my god... yer soooo cooool! [/QB]
I can't even figure out what this is suppost to mean.
quote:We need more participants!
Well, duh, but that doesn't happen when people who have spent 30 seconds in there insist on whining & spreading crap about it.
quote:Too be honest... it's juvenile & boring as hell unless you like to listen to guys that have NEVER been laid & love fart jokes.
Again, are you sure you were in the right room or did you go in at 3 am when most people have already gone to bed?
quote: I am as bad as anyone.. well not as bad as OP & the Rev... hahaha, lol, hehe, snicker, rof & all the other online laugh tracks.
Again, not making any sense here.
quote: No really, we need more participants!
See above.
[/QB][/QUOTE] It is fun... but really screwed up!!! LOL, hahahaha, whew, hehehehe, , , hmpph... wtf?... ROF... hehe, bmsm, ayk? hs! u mst b ntz! IPMP so bad I HTCT. But wait... My MDTL & I am ready to PLI18YOA! What u talkin bout Willis?
I'll let the newbies in on the lingo... OMFTFWUA!
Peace out! [/QB][/QUOTE] Uhm dude, I've been a member of chat for years & I don't have a clue what you're talking about. I'm seriously wondering if you ended up in some chat room for 13 year old dylsexics.
Russ, 11. Referring to people you have known for 30 seconds as train wrecks, slackers, juvenile, boring, or intentionally trying to stir up poop about chat is not a good way to go about making friends.
-------------------- Chris Welker Wildfire Signs Indiana, Pa Posts: 4254 | From: Indiana, PA | Registered: Mar 2001
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iam gona say this and probably upset the applecart......but all of us regulars are SOBER on chat and we do rag on each other as good freinds often do. so i mean what i just said.....its like if you drink, dont drive, also works on chat.
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Chat is the "only" place in the world that I know of that will gladly help you with a sign-related problem with dignity and sincere professional knowledge at 2 a.m. Then, there aren't any fees like tech support, unless you want to send a panel or something; but, they put it in my language to understand. What they do with their own languages about other subjects is up to them. You can paddle and steer around it all if you really came for some great help. Thank you all on chat.
-------------------- Deb Fowler
"It's kind of fun to do the impossible - Walt Disney (1901-1966) Posts: 5373 | From: Loves Park, Illinois | Registered: Aug 1999
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Hey Kissy... Nice job copying my first statement. Do you personally disagree with the... "we need new participants" statement or do you just need a hug?
Kiss or Kissy or Kissamatina... you are the same person! Don't hate me cause I call you Kissy.
Love, Mikey!
-------------------- Michael R. Bendel Bendel Sign Co,. Inc. Sauk Rapids, MN Posts: 913 | From: Sauk Rapids, MN | Registered: Jul 2005
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I don't understand where you are coming from at all Michael. I was messaged to drop in on chat the other night for a while while you were there and it seemed all you wanted to do was provoke people. The post you made in regards to Kimberly was just strange. You got booted because you were intentionally trying to provoke people. It had nothing to do with calling Kimberly "Kimmie" and I think it was totally unfair of you to pull her into your issues. The comments you have made in regards to chat and the participants are completely foreign to anything I've ever seen and you seem to be bent on continuing this. From what I saw the other night, the outcome had nothing to do with anyone but yourself.
I drop in on chat from time to time, I have never ever witnessed the behaviour you speak of and nor have I ever witnessed behaviour like you exhibited. I don't get it, whats got you so angry?
For the rest of you who haven't experienced chat, there are some regulars who keep it on in the background all the time. If they are silent it is often because they are multi tasking.
What I have a problem with is those who brand something without first hand knowledge. Cliquey? Yes there is a group who are there on a regular basis who are pretty protective of each other - friends do that you know. But I don't see them being rude to newcomers at all. Ask an intelligent question and treat them with respect and you'll find it is returned.
I'm confused, Michael, what is it you want to accomplish?
-------------------- “Did you ever stop to think, and forget to start again?” -Winnie the Pooh & A.A. Milne
Kelly Thorson Kel-T-Grafix 801 Main St. Holdfast, SK S0G 2H0 ktg@sasktel.net Posts: 5496 | From: Penzance, Saskatchewan | Registered: May 2002
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Ok.. i am a relative newbie to chat.. and this board.. and i have been treated quite welcoming in chat.. the only person i have ever seen get out of line is micheal.. .. and yes it is like he goes out of his way to annoy.. and many times it even hard to figure out what in the heck he is talking about.. Heck he got after me for not helping newbies.. rof.. I am the newbie..
-------------------- sue brown american instant signs pasadena, calif Posts: 90 | From: southern california | Registered: Jul 2006
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I agree. I don't get many chances to get on chat. I don't have a computer at home any more since they are all at my shop. I've only been in chat occasionally and it's been quite a while. But every time I went in from the first to the last, I was always welcomed, and no one ever provoked or made fun of me. I in turn never try to stir the pot so I guess you get what you give.
-------------------- Dave Sherby "Sandman" SherWood Sign & Graphic Design Crystal Falls, MI 49920 906-875-6201 sherwoodsign@sbcglobal.net Posts: 5398 | From: Crystal Falls, MI USA | Registered: Apr 1999
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My mind wanders. And that's not a good thing, 'cause it's too small to be out there alone. Posts: 3129 | From: Tooele, UT | Registered: Mar 2005
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Speaking of Chat, I side chat with Russ sometimes. We both have an interest in the reverse glass stuff and I think we would bore others with our conversations. We run ideas back and forth, send files, critique, ask and give advice and have even discussed the possibilities of a business venture together.
(A friend introduced me to SKYPE, which is really cool, but Russ sounds like he is drowning and there is a lot of lag time. I guess it is all to do with the path the connections take, because I can speak to people in England and Australia just fine.)
If it were not for chat I would have never got to know Kimberly and we wouldn't have had the pleasure of staying with Clay, Sam and her this summer.
If I'm working late and I need an instant answer, I don't want to be phoning someone and getting them out of bed. There is almost always someone on chat with a lot more experience than me and I usually get the info I need.
Chat is pretty much whatever you are. We each shape and take out own personal experience from there.
-------------------- “Did you ever stop to think, and forget to start again?” -Winnie the Pooh & A.A. Milne
Kelly Thorson Kel-T-Grafix 801 Main St. Holdfast, SK S0G 2H0 ktg@sasktel.net Posts: 5496 | From: Penzance, Saskatchewan | Registered: May 2002
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Never really got into Chat--tried it a time or two, but only got confused with nicknames, and who was talking to who. Never figured out how to do sidechat, and these days, I go to bed early.
That's an "old person" thing.
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-------------------- Bill Preston Fly Creek, N.Y. USA Posts: 943 | From: Fly Creek, N.Y. USA | Registered: Jan 2000
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I've been on Chat and really enjoyed it... except for the initiation part where I had to strip naked, go outside and run around the house 3 times screaming "Letterhead's rule." Do all the newbies have to do that?
I'm sure while I was gone, people were laughing and making fun of me behind my back, but I didn't mind... it would have been even funnier if they'd been there to see it...
Been too busy to get back on lately, but will be back soon.
-------------------- Jon Jantz Snappysign.com jjantz21@gmail.com http://www.allcw.com Posts: 3395 | From: Atmore, AL | Registered: Nov 2005
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Letterville Chat goes back to 1995. Some have been using it everyday for 11 years. Many of our Letterville BB regulars actually discovered the website via chat.
We had big plans for chat in the beginning. Our vision was a chat where Letterheads around the World would logon at their own most convenient time. If it had worked, something would be happening 24 hours a day.
Letterville Chat has always reflected the people in the room. We had room operators that respected the website and took on the job of making sure certain standards were observed. There was no real need to write out these "rules" in a detailed manner. We were all friends. All of us were interested in Letterheads and everything that means. We repected each other as fellow Letterheads. In a nutshell, most of us wanted to get along.
Letterville Chat was never a Church. I'm a bit on the crusty side, so it wasn't unusual to see Adult talk and flirting going on. Anytime you put men and women together, it just happens. Chat has resulted in numerous affairs and a few marriages. I'm not going to comment on that. It happens.
There is nothing wrong with chat, but it could be so much more. Over the years, we have seen chat technology improve. MIRC is a great program, but it's very geeky compared to new chat programs that offer video and voice, as well as text chat. We've played with a few, but the hard core chat users still prefer MIRC.
At present, Barb and I handle all the chores associated with Letterville. It's the busiest of all the "sign" websites and our sole source of income. We simply do not have the time or resources to take on administering chat, let alone sit on the channel like we once did.
From time to time, someone will log chat and send it along to us. Sometimes it's one of our ops or a regular user. I wish you wouldn't! I'm well aware that there is talk that may not appeal, or even offend others. My best advice is to just leave. Find something else to do.
There are all sorts of issues we can continue to beat up on each other over. If Letterville is going to work, we need to get back to wanting it to work. There is lots of good here, but a small group is focusing, and sometimes taking great delight in pointing out the flaws.
Sometimes these people are Residents or Merchants. People we have met and spent personal time with. They feel that they should be treated special because they subscribe or spend advertising dollars in Letterville. They always claim to be speaking for a huge group of unknown people who are no longer happy with our meet or some of those we allow to post.
I'll continue this later. I'm starved.
-------------------- Steve Shortreed 144 Hill St., E. Fergus, Ontario Canada N1M 1G9 519-787-2673
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