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I've used motor oil forever. Someone gave me a small bottle of Mr. J's oil. I noticed the brushes seem to perform better, than when stored in the motor oil. The free bottle is now gone, and I was thinking of ordering another one. What do you use?
-------------------- Luke S. Luke Scanlan Artistry Ocala, Fl. lukescanlan@cox.net Posts: 249 | From: Ocala, Florida | Registered: Nov 2001
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I used to use Sapphire Brush Oil, but the distributor doesn't have it anymore so I fell back to Tranny Fluid, supposedly it's less acidic than motor oil. When I started we used lard oil, never liked that. I'm sure some of the specialty suppliers will still carry some quality oil.
-------------------- John Arnott El Cajon CA 619 596-9989 signgraphics1@aol.com http://www.signgraphics1.com Posts: 1443 | From: El Cajon CA usa | Registered: Dec 1998
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I used to use Saphire but I ran out so I just use mineral oil now. You can also use the Peanut oil when it seperates from the solids if you leave the peanut butter out too long
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mineral oil is excellant for "regular" lettering!
-------------------- Catharine C. Kennedy CCK Graphics 1511 Route 28 Chatham Center, NY 12184 cck1620@taconic.net "Look at me, Look at me, Look at me now! I't's fun to have fun, But you have to know how!" Posts: 2173 | From: downtown Chatham Center, NY | Registered: Feb 2004
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Marvel Mystery Oil is a great brush oil, must less harsh as motor oil or tranny fluid.
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"A wise man once said that, or was it a wise guy?" Posts: 2425 | From: Salem, MA | Registered: Apr 1999
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Since I had "visions" of becoming a veteran brusher several years ago, but it didn't happen, I have a full quart of Sapphire brush oil.
Pristine, un-contaminated!!!
Not giving it up though..never know when I will decide to try to be proficient with a brush.
-------------------- Dave Grundy retired in Chelem,Yucatan,Mexico/Hensall,Ontario,Canada 1-519-262-3651 Canada 011-52-1-999-102-2923 Mexico cell 1-226-785-8957 Canada/Mexico home
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Walldog oil-i was a "automotive brush preservative redneck signpainter"-for years.....( my boss back in 76' used that , so what can i say ) QHF-Quill hair Ferrule, South Car. the cost of a good brush deserves good oil-non-automotive that is ! come over to the "sign supply LUKKKEEEEEEE, search your feelings....i mean the web !
-------------------- mark zilliox mark z signs 8425 pushaw station rd. owings md. 20736 301-855-5407 thezs@earthlink.net http://www.markzsigns.com Posts: 348 | From: maryland | Registered: May 2003
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I've always used lard oil. I have some brushes that are 20 years old. The key is to clean them well and get the paint out of the heel before you oil them up.
-------------------- Lou Pascuzzi www.economysigns.com Fine Hand Lettering since 1973 Danbury, Ct 203-748-4580 "IOAFS" Posts: 341 | From: Danbury, Ct | Registered: Feb 2000
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Remember, your brushes are all either "Dead Squirrel" . . or dead acrylic . . dunno about th' acrylic but the squirrel needs a natural oil to keep from becoming brittle . . and the stock (or Heel) needs oil to keep it soft, paint doesn't dry when contaminated with large amounts of any oil.
And remember this . . If you wouldn't put it in your hair, it probably won't do that brush much good . . .
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Vaseline...doesn't spill...nice when your traveling by plane...learned from George Garner...washes up nicely with 5 star (inside joke...just kidding about the 5 star...but the vaseline werks great)
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Lard oil was pretty much the standard for brushes and quills in the old days. Readily available and it works. Over a period of time it would get thick and gummy, but rinsed out easily. The one big drawback is that insects and rodents love it! Many years ago, I lost a big handfull that way, when I left my brush box laying around open over the weekend.
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Brushasaurus on Chat Posts: 8831 | From: La Mirada, CA, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Ive used tranny fluid for years with good luck, but if you happen to have a brush that was mistakenly laid in the box crooked, or somehow got the hairs bent up...Vaseline. You can work it in, and it will hold the bristles in shape, so next time you use them, they'll be straightened out.
-------------------- Dale Feicke Grafix 714 East St. Mendenhall, MS 39114
"I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me." Posts: 2963 | From: Mendenhall, MS | Registered: Apr 1999
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I used lard entire career, then ran out and found out there are no known sources of lard oil out there, none. This started search that ended w/dry brush care, using a ultra-sonic cleaner to "perfectly" clean brush "everytime", w/o worry one about it having something left in ferrel to set up..... My opinion of "modern" brush oils isn't, they all have their drawbacks, some(read most) have serious issues, like product drying out, that's always good for a stored brush.........so new way for me baby!!!
Luke!!!! I've told you this before!!! Damn son, hello? Can Luke come out and play???
-------------------- Frank Magoo, Magoo's-Las Vegas; fmagoo@netzero.com "the only easy day was yesterday" Posts: 2365 | From: Las Vegas, Nv. | Registered: Jun 2003
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I don't agree with anyone, I've developed a complete new system I've worked on for the past couple of years and found it to work just fine for all my tools and brushes.
I've also developed formulars so my painted stripes don't fade, chalk or have any other problems most persons have with either their new reformulated EPA sign enamels or urethanes I've also decided to keep these things to myself because no one really gives a ratsass of where their information comes from as long as they get it.
BTW, I've also found that I can't see in the dark so now I stripe out of memory and feel and don't have to worry bout the lines as they are thin and sraight and I'm not joking, I'm dead serious!
-------------------- HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952 'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'
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I think baby oil is a refined mineral oil with some scent added. There was a rumor about the saphire oil when it first came out that it was whale oil. There has always been the debate over the merits of detergent oil in brushes, such as tranny oil. Do you think the quality of brushes we buy today will last twenty years?
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Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. — Charles Mingus Posts: 6724 | From: Mendocino, CA. USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Luke, Mack Brush Company has always carried the oil I use for my brushes, Neatsfoot oil. Mack Brush Preserving Oils & Cleaners They are a Merchant here too! Jeff
-------------------- Jeffrey P. Lang Olde Lang Signs Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
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Thanks for all the tips. I found some mineral oil at the grocery store yesterday. It was only $2.50. I'll give that a whirl, and see how it works.
-------------------- Luke S. Luke Scanlan Artistry Ocala, Fl. lukescanlan@cox.net Posts: 249 | From: Ocala, Florida | Registered: Nov 2001
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Mineral oil is also an excellent additive to your horses menu in case of painfully diffucult bowel movements . . .after proper dosage ingestion, everything will slip right out . . .
probably would help people too . . .
ps: I really miss saphire oil too . . . even if I used the ultra-sonic, which I have witnessed such similar type cleaning and believe in, except not so as to come off a $150 yet . . . I would likely still apply something to my brushes while they are stored and such . . .
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Rapid Ray is the only one to mention lemon oil. I have used it for over 50 years with no problem. It actually is a furniture polish, had in either the hardware or supermarket stores. Never had a problem, never dried out, never got gummy or hard, mice don't like it. Cleans out very easily.
-------------------- Bill Riedel Riedel Sign Co., Inc. 15 Warren Street Little Ferry, N.J. 07643 billsr@riedelsignco.com Posts: 2953 | From: Little Ferry, New Jersey, USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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I started with baby oil and never tried anything else.
-------------------- AirbrushBobby.com Clearwater, FL The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing.1Cor1:18 “The wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Jesus Christ our Lord”Rom6:23 Posts: 505 | From: Clearwater Florida USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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Why oil your brushes, the hair is dead and the natural oils are gone, the many times you've washed your brushes after usage has taken on a different approach and from a users end oil is just gonna remove more hair from the ferrule. The only time I use oil on my brushes is between the time I leave a job and am on the road. When i get back to the shop i clean the brushes in the U.S. and store. If brush hairs get tangled, I brush them with a toothbrush. If the hair gets out of shape, I iron them.
why is it that some persons say to take care of your brushes the same way you take care of your own hair. Do you use oil on your hair, if so what kind?
I like oil just not for my brushes
I truly understand the ol'signpainters approach to oil and other things like their trusty palette knife cutting off the skins and always leaving the caps off the cans, turps, spirits and other assorted crap which made their workspace look like a frickin garbage dump, I worked with some of the best. take Emmette Morelli for instance, you couldn't walk through his shop, he had so much crap and the floors looked like a mural, I liked him alot, I was next door to him in Vegas.
No wonder they say ' the more things change, the more they remain the same '
No one wants change and no one wants to change out of their mentors clothing.
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been using 3in1 oil since 1960... still got old Dick Blick art sign brushes with all their working parts. buy a can at Wal-Mart...You'll be glad youdid.
-------------------- Bill Wood Bill Wood, Sign Artist 3628 Ogburn Ave., NE Winston-Salem, NC 27105-3752 336-682-5820 Posts: 397 | From: Winston-Salem, NC | Registered: May 2006
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