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Felix Marcano
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Good morning everyone. Well we finally got the glass chipped & are ready to angel gild, but I got a few questions... Questions? Me? No!

Can I paint fibroseal on a portion of the glass prior to angel gilding, in order to achieve a matte gild on that particular area?

Also, how do I angel gild a certain area of the glass & then silver another? Would hot glue work as a dam?

Thanks, Felix

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I don't think angel gilding would "stick" to fibroseal. You could try using a paste acid etch like Armor Etch to dull it but I'm not sure if that would give it a matte gild or not.

If you want to silver one area and have gold on another one just do the gold in the area you want, silver over it, back it up, clean off the excess, start back with step #1 and silver over the whole thing without adding the gold A&B then back that up.

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I doubt if angel gilding would stick to fibroseal either, but there's one way to find out. [Smile]

Ricky is right about the silver/gold thing. If you put the gold down first, you can go over the top of it with silver, and it will just make the gold look more brilliant. There shouldn't be a reason to keep them separate.

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Sarah King

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Felix,

Ricky is right - the Amour Etch would create a beautiful matte area for Angel Gilding. Angel Gilding works very well over etched glass because the edges of the "bumps" are smooth. The "bumps" from sand blasting are too rough.

It doesn't work to gild one part of the glass and then try to silver over the other part without protecting the gold first because you would then be pouring tin on top of the gold and that makes the gold go brown and terrible. Again, Ricky has the answer - gild, silver, dry, back-up, clean off the extra and then clean, tin and silver the silver areas. Extra work but the only way to go.

Hot glue does not work very well because all that water just lifts it from the glass. I find that if you are careful plain vinyl makes a usable dam. The edges contain the gold somewhat but mostly the excess gold goes down on the vinyl and so you eliminate the cleanup process. Gild, silver and dry the glass then carefully lift the vinyl and back up the gold.
If the glass was really clean to begin with, you can then rinse it off (with distilled water, of course) and proceed to tin for the silver areas. The backing on the gold protects it from the second layer of tin.

Russ's idea is very tempting because you will be silvering over the gold but with all that water around there is no way to keep the gold contained in one area and the silver in another. It really needs to be a two step process.

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Cool. Thanks. Where can I get Armour Etch?

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Felix Marcano
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Felix,

Show us some photos of this art....

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Matthew Rolli
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