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Jake Hamstra
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I have a cedar sign to restore it has cracks running through it. What is the best filler to fill in the
cracks.The will be painted not stained.
Thank
Jake

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Jake Hamstra
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Jake,
Is the sign blasted? Are you going to have to carve the fill to match blasted grain? Is the sign cracking in the original glue joints and in need of relamination?
Just a couple of questions so we can answer better.
YOUR answers will direct the responses, otherwise we would have to guess.

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Before you do anything, put some pipe clamps on it and see if you can tighten it up some. If so then I would try re-gluing it. Go easy.

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The letters are routed out and the background is smooth.The cracks are not at the joints they are more like weathered cracks following the grain of the wood
and about 1/8 to 1/4 inch deep.The sign itself is
2" thick.

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Jake Hamstra
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Yep, wood will do that. It would make life simpler for all involved if people would put some maintenance into these things before they got to that stage - what are you going to do...

Sounds like you're in luck that there's no loose joints or splitting. To minimize the surface checking you describe I would power sand first with 150 or so to get off anything loose, blow off and use a filler like bondo, just enough to fill the voids without any actual buildup on the surface. Prime 1 to 2 coats, resand and you should be good to go with your topcoats.

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Jake,
That's why I asked. Thanks.

Yep, like Joe says... Bondo. In this case, the sign has already expanded and contracted, and weathered well. Since you said the cracks are NOT in the joints, I wouldn't worry about the sign falling apart. Don't bother to clamp the sign to close the cracks, it will just want to expand again and reveal the cracks.
The Bondo may show up as a shinier surface when you paint, since it will be a more "solid" surface than the wood. Depending on the gaps, I sometimes use Automotive Glazing Putty for the smaller cracks, no mixing.

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What Gene, and Joe said. Do not try and fill with glue and clamp. The wood decided to split for a reason, and trying to glue them back shut will most likely come back to haunt you. Like others have said, leave the cracks open, and use bondo.
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Thanks for the reply.
I will try the bondo.
Jake

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Jake Hamstra
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Is the sign warped at all? Is it single or double faced, and how is it mounted? Can you restore it in place or do you have to remove it? Solidly mounted wooden signs that get cracks in them also develop internal stresses that'll relieve themselves when you remove the sign. I've found cedar to be kinda brittle to begin with so don't often use it for signs.

Hope this helps.

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