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Randy Jones
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I have seen some of the work you guys do with full color screen printed shirts and would like to expand our business to do the same.

We have a very basic screen printing set up, four color with one station, and I was wondering if anyone knew where I can get information on doing a four color process. I would need from start to finish. We have adobe photoshop 7 and I did a little course on it but it didn't really explain if you have a picture from a digital camera how to do the color seperation. I bought a cd from ebay but it didn't give the program side of information on seperation, he actually had someone else to it, and he had a automated machine so that wasn't to helpfull.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Teresa

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Doug Allan
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THIS SITE would be very helpful, also sounds like you could benefit from one of the many photoshop books. There are also forums where you can learn more about photoshop.

I think you would be better off with a 4 station press for process printing

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Randy,
I don't know the answer, but it may help if you change the title of your post. Many people who COULD help may not read a general "please help" question.

Maybe : Help Needed: 4 Color Process - Screen Printing Separation

That way the screeners will respond.

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Gene Golden
Gettysburg Signs
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Ian Stewart-Koster
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Good replies above.
A book was produced last year called "Photoshop 7 for Screenprinters" or some similarly obvious title. Apparently it's very good. (around $50 ish) The author's name was something like Joli Baliew. (I'm too lazy to look it up properly, but you could do a search.)

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Oops, sorry Teresa, I read the "Randy" part of the name.
Teresa,
I used to work for Northeaster Signs, Baltimore. As much screening as we did there, I don't recall EVER doing a 4 color process in-house, and that is a busy commercial shop doing political signs and all. Since they don't do T-Shirts, I believe that you could call for a little info. Ask for Chuck and tell him I referred you, 410-467-7733, don't blame me if he hangs up though, once you drop my name [Eek!] !

There is a large shirt printer in Holabird Industrial Park, Dundalk. They print unbelievable photographic images of fish & game on shirts (they also produce all of the "Big Johnson" t-shirts in-house). I know they use something like 12 or 15 color printing stations, but I still don't believe they use 4 color process. I've been in there, and it's impressive. No sign outside, Maryland Screen Printers, 1801 Portal Street, check it out, 410-633-3333. Well worth the trip (if they let you in). Really nice guys though, but they don't know me, so don't bother dropping the name there [Big Grin] .

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I had some four color shirts printed at a local shop recently and did the artwork for the shirts in Illustrator CS. The print shop brought my work into Photoshop and then used a stand alone program to print out the 4 color separated postitives for the screens.

Perhaps I could look into this a bit more if they would be willing to share that info with me??...I used to work there.

Let me kow if you would like more info and I'll see what I can do.

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Teresa,

I dug up this link for you that explains the differences between spot and process printing on tshirts...

here

Many of the shops these days are printing their seperations from the computer directly to film positives. Programs like Adobe and Corel allow you to do the same.

Hope this helps...
Rapid

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could be this Smart Designer program ? http://www.smartdesigns.com/sd10.htm

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Randy, though I haven't goten into process work I have been around it enough to know that a 4 station press is the bare minimum you'll need. It will only do the bare minumum on light colored garments. If you do black shirts you'll have to put a base whit down and flash dry before going ahead and then if the client wants specific colors to appear they will require spot color along with 4c. That is why you see so many 8-14 station presses being offered There is a real learning curve to be done. I used to do garments and when I saw where the industry was heading I bailed out in '91. I had a guy tell me once at a trade show that they had a tough job to do and they had made 27 sets of screens to get to the right colors for their client. Now it is'nt all that tough and I don't want to completely scare you away but 4c is a whole new gig for you, proceed with caution.

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South Bend Screen Process, Inc.
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South Bend IN 46613

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Teresa/Randy,
Have you had a chance to talk to those people I suggested?

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Gene Golden
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