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Dave Sherby
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Can you stripe with DBC right out of the can?

I just started spraying DBC and was wondering if it could be brushed. I have a project coming up where I have to woodgrain some large panels. I was wondering if automotive could be used so I can clear it for longevity, and still glue on some 3D letters & graphics.

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Dave Sherby
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SherWood Sign & Graphic Design
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Tim Barrow
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Dave you should be fine if the color covers,....but it IS a base and thus needs a clear coat,...Also take into consideration if you have brushstrokes you want to hide, you'll need to sand the clear coat and buff or reshoot clear to get them out,...it isn't advisory to try and sand the base,...

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Not a problem Timi. I plan on doing this to signs and the entire panel will be basecoat then cleared with PPG Stratoclear.

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Dave Sherby
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Gavin Chachere
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Dave you're gonna have to use some minimal amt of reducer to it if thats what you're asking...right out of the can may be too thick to let the tail end solvents flash out or to brush with any kind of control or detail,its gonna start to set up quicker than 1shot esp up where you are if its cool,low humidity and you have the heat on in the shop..so try some stuff and see how much working time you have to give yourself

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Good question Dave, but why use it when there are other urethanes which can be used in all applications. I think part of our quest is to have on hand everything which makes our work easier and less complicated. I have 3 paint systems, less problems and less time spent looking for answers between projects [Smile]

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OK Dave . . You've listened to all the reasons why you shouldn't . . Wanna hear why not?

Actually, there's nothing to it. First use a good opaque. If you need to use a color that is translucent, add pearl or metallic. I find that the pearls work the best but real fine metallic works good in certain instances.

The material is self wetting, so get the pallette puddle wet and keep it that way. Very little solvent is needed, but a little (I use a 1 oz. cup) DT 898 is handy to just dip the tip of the striper in now and then. the feel is very silky and it flows great. Actually I can make longer lines with DBC than I can with One Shot on the average.

I'll be giving several demonstrations at the Rush Panel Jam in Albuquerque this coming Weekend, and I usually do the Striping with DBC deal twice!

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Jerry VanHorn
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I have custom painted with DBC since 1991. I have stripped with it a few times but always thought it was kinda dry. When I thinned a little with DT 870 it would wash away the bottom basecoats. I have only stipped on other DBC bases so it may be different on clear.

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self wetting?

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Gavin Chachere
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quote:
Originally posted by Gavin Chachere:
self wetting?

my three year old son is a pro at that

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Jerry VanHorn, Pres.
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I stripe with DBC bases from time to time, primarily to add some "punch" to faux woodgrain projects.

I generally will base my project in some shade of beige, do my woodgraining with an airbrush in some various shades, both darker and lighter than my base, and top-coat with a coat of dbc500. (DBC500, while listed as a "color-blender", is essentially non-pigmented base...and it makes the ideal intercoat clear, vehicle for pearls, base for homemade NON-CATALYZED candy colors) I do the striping on top of the DBC500, after an hour or so, and it seems to keep the paint I'm striping with from re-activating the base colors (although you still don't want to overwork it, and keep the brush moving...as even the DBC500 will soften back up if your not careful). Then I airbrush a little more with some of my original base mixed 1:3 with BDC500, to soften up the striped graining, and clear.

If you're going to clear with 2042, wet sand it 8-12 hours later with 2000 paper, set it aside for a couple of days, and then rub it..it'll glow!

It works for me

-Al

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Alphonse Dente
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