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Well, Apparently, the core of my original post has be misconstrued (as seems to happen here).
I'm not Kevin bashing...I'm not whining...
But I'm also not attending.
I posted to express my total frustration with the fact that I began trying to contact Kevin in January, and when I finally heard from him, it turned out that SignGold's support wasn't wanted. I was told straight up, that this was a "computer and computer-related products-free event."
Kevin did mention that if I wanted to come in and hand cut some SignGold, that would be acceptable.
I was also dismayed by Kevin's statement about already having "all the best guys around" lined up for seminars. I found that to be a brash, if not insulting statement. The best guys??? Don't be foolish. Really good guys to be certain. Maybe even great. I think that, coupled with Kevin's ongoing statement "I will be reopening the Detroit School of Lettering", made him come across as being a bit cocksure. But hell, I'm like that most of the time. I always say that "cockiness becomes confidence, when you can back it up."
But I also wrote in my intial post, that Kevin seemed to be working really hard at getting his ducks in a row...and that EVERYONE should wait for Monday's post to decide.
Having "grown up at meets", Kevin should be hip to the fact that these things take lots of planning. To BEGIN informing people about a meet three months prior, especially a meet that bears the name "International", is nuts.
When I mentioned to Kevin that companies like SignGold, US Banner, Midwest Sign Supply and others, all kicked in solid chunks of change at past meets, to help keep the cost down...he was surprised. Vendors like SignGold can indeed offer something to those who attend these events, in the form of underwriting. Why did this surprise Kevin? You'd think that, growing up at meets, he'd know what it takes to run one.
I don't dislike Kevin. I don't even know Kevin. He actually seems like a good guy. I think he might be a guy that's in over his head; but we've all been there. And I believe the best way to learn to swim, is in the deep end of the pool. I commend him for taking on such a monumental task. Now the trend (and LOTS of things in here seem to be the result of trends) is to "give poor ol' Kev a break". I think I gave poor ol' Kev a break when after five months of being incommunicato, I was still willing to write him a check last week. The down side to all of this, is that for a second year in a row, SignGold can't be represented at the "International" meet. No sponsorship. No booth. No doorprizes.
On a more posative note, I can swing that percentage of our budget over to another meet.
Detroit WILL BE A SUCCESS.
The success of any meet, isn't in the seminars, or the meals, the host(s)or the venue. The success of any meet is a credit to those who attend. I was at Michael Boone's meet, in a blizzard in February. There were like, seven of us. We had sub sandwiches for lunch. But all of us walked out of Mike's shop pumped up, and rejuvinated. It was a success.
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i am glad to have this ability to comm. with everyone. i have been on the web for 4 days now and can not believe how fast i can get things done. i have made more strides in 4 days than in the last 5 months. Brian, i had no intentions of leaving anyone out. i just thought the idea of no computers was a way to focus on hand drawing lay-outs, pounce them and start having fun. also, i have found out that there is a business side to these meets. so, let the computers be here and lets stop talking about this issue. money makes the world go around, and if i can help in showing the differnt aspects of this great trade we are in to all who are interested, than i will feel good.
Boy, a lot has changed since i was 13 at the 83' meet. but as the say, times will change. So with that in mind, i guess change is not so bad.
please check the events page for our flyer, which will give a better listing for detroit 2004.
-------------------- Kevin Betz KB Sign Company 21321 Ulrich Clinton Township, MI 48036 kbsigncompany@att.net Posts: 229 | From: Detroit, MI | Registered: Sep 2003
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Ok, Now let's all hold hands and sing: ~Kum-bay-ahh My Lord, Kumbaya~" Love...Jill
-------------------- That is like a Mr. Potato Head with all the pieces in the wrong place. -Russ McMullin Posts: 8834 | From: Butler, PA, USA | Registered: Jan 2001
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that reminds me, we are trying to secure some music artist from the mowtown era. hopefully we can get a few, but we will have music at the meet. if any wants to bring an insterment and jam, please do so.
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i meant MOTOWN. i need to get better at typing.
-------------------- Kevin Betz KB Sign Company 21321 Ulrich Clinton Township, MI 48036 kbsigncompany@att.net Posts: 229 | From: Detroit, MI | Registered: Sep 2003
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Kevin I am glad that you are seeing some of the value of the computer as a tool, it is only a tool...and some use it well some still don't have a clue how to use the tools....glad that this is all taking a positive turn, as it has been frustrating for (I won't say all) but frustrating for me as this could be a great meet....we can all learn something new everyday if we allow ourselves. But Kevin I must warn
-------------------- Dan Streicher Slidell, LA Posts: 445 | From: Slidell, LA | Registered: Feb 2004
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Thank you for the updates and info on the future Mets page.
I did notice that this meet is a 4 day event. The majority of the meets are three day events and some here may have made the assumption you meet was 3 days also. I've been to 5 meets in the last year with varying costs, and spoken to many of the hosts about the costs in hope to one day host a meet here. The cost seems resonable given the amount of time there will be to learn and share information.
I'm going to try to make it out if circumstances allow. (Just the opportunity to discuss paint with Kent is good enough reason for me... ) Rapid
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