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Hi Folks! Long time no see, I hope you're all doing well. I've got an interesting challenge for any installation saavy letterheads in the community. I'm doing a 24"x 192" HDU carved and gilded sign for a tattoo parlor. Cool, right? Well it's being installed on a registered historical building and if that isn't enough, it's cobblestone. I just recieved the ok to install a 24"x 192" temporary banner and the HDU sign will be going up in a couple of months.
The obvious problem is, I want to be as inevasive as possible. If i can, I'd like to use the same holes for both signs. Anyone have ideas for this one? Thanks...
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-------------------- Terry Baird Baird Signs 3484 West Lake Rd. Canandaigua, NY 14424 Posts: 790 | From: Canandaigua, New York | Registered: Dec 2002
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Hiya Terry, Without a close inspection, I would probably use 3 or 4 "L" brackets top and bottom (6 or 8 total) to mount the permanent sign. Then, if it's possible to position and mount them ahead of time, I would use the brackets to mount a smaller banner with bungies.
Havin' fun,
Checkers
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Apart from that sign looking way too big for the historical building, if the banner were mounted ona plywood backer that was mounted with the same hardware, that would work.
Can the stone be drilled without breaking? Could you mount a ledger strip that is evenly spaced from the wall? If you did the ledger strip with an angle cut across the top edge and the reverse was mounted on the plywood and then transfered to the sign with a spacer at the bottom, I think that'd work.
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On this type of installation, you have a couple of options. Either conseal the method of securing the panel to the wall or make the fixtures a part of the signage.
For me it would be fabricating decorative fixtures, using the existing holes in the building. Old antique fixtures with hammered steel looking pieces. Even if they don't add anything sturcturaly it would be a way to enhnace the sign.
Rich's suggestion about size is a good one.
-------------------- Joe Crumley Norman Sign Company 2200 Research Park Blvd. Norman, OK 73069 Posts: 1428 | From: 2200 Research Park Blvd. | Registered: Sep 2001
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Thanks for the input guys, I appreciate it. Rick, I don't think I would dare drill into the stone, there's enough mortar to be conservative. As for the size...I would like a more "petite" footprint, but the client wants to utilze every inch that the village code will allow. Believe it or not , the village wanted her to use a 48"x 96". It's at an intersection so they're allowing a 16 sq. ft. (each side) hanging sign on the side of the building as well. I like the idea of using decorative fixtures in existing holes. This design is about as conservative as I could talk her into.
-------------------- Terry Baird Baird Signs 3484 West Lake Rd. Canandaigua, NY 14424 Posts: 790 | From: Canandaigua, New York | Registered: Dec 2002
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I would use brackets in the mortar lines. Nice looking sign by the way. As for sizing, to be historically accurate it depends on what the era is. I would guess that building to be post Civil War, in which case it would probably have had way more signs than that. Now if the era is 1700 a smaller sign , probably on an arm would be accurate. Most "historic districts" are interested in a current concept of aesthics not a historically acurate one.
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Terry, I'm amazed to see another building faced with what looks like T-111 is attached to a free standing registered historical building to begin with.
oh well
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If you like that Joey, check out the "historically correct" windows. Well, I don't make the rules (or break them).
-------------------- Terry Baird Baird Signs 3484 West Lake Rd. Canandaigua, NY 14424 Posts: 790 | From: Canandaigua, New York | Registered: Dec 2002
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