Wow, I get to do a brick wall for a company that claims money is no object, they want the panel to look weathered.
So I'm thinkin of letting them pressure wash it, I prime it with block out and then roll on the panel and letter it. Then, I figure I could smack it around with a brick?
Right now, it's drawn up in a bold block letter style. No big whoop, but I would like to know what most of you get for this, when the client is not cheap about it. I am bidding against another company who "does not want to paint this."
I'm not used to bidding against other folks. I was spoiled when I was in demand before.
I've also been given the go ahead to design sompn creative. That will get me some airbrush exposure hehehe! We're looking at a steel motif.
60 sq ft represents an arrow (all curve hehehe)
120 sq ft is the panel behind the lettering
90 sq feet is the actual lettering (2 words, 10 upper case letters)
Posted by Arvil Shep' Shepherd (Member # 2030) on :
I suggest you contact "TIMI" he does this type work all the time......he is very good at what he does and he commands top dollar..(and gets it also ) Shep'
Posted by PKing (Member # 337) on :
I'm getting $15.00 per square foot in Birmingham. This will cover lift rental,materials,labor,and helper. CAUTION: Air brushing outside on this type of texture will not benifit the customer! Let me know if I can help you out. Been doing this kinda work most of my time.
Posted by timi NC (Member # 576) on :
Pat is right Linda,...airbrush work will need some sort of clear coat if it is to last on a masonry wall.As for pricing it you say money is no object,hehehehehehe they ought to know better than to say that! Is the wall inside or outside? How high off the ground is it? How many people will see it each day? There are alot of variables to consider when placing a value on your work.How long will it take you to produce? What will the materials cost? I've seen masonry walls swallow up to three times the amount of paint that the same area on a wood or metal panel would.Be sure to seal the masonry first before you prime.There is alot more info needed here before you can just pull a price out of thin air.
Posted by Stephen Deveau (Member # 1305) on :
Timi My hat is off to you!
And another question is Long Term? or Short Term?
Some project are better off on Panel work and others (Depending on time length)..
Are you trying to give this the (Antique Look?)
Posted by Linda Silver Eagle (Member # 274) on :
Wow! It never ceases to amaze me ...the help I get here! This is incredible!
I decided not to post possible jobs up on the bb anymore, for self-preservation in regards to underbidding, etc. I'll be in chat for a spell and can dcc it around to those of you who can see it and help me decide what to do. I've been playing with the creative end of this and have a couple of photoshops to show.
It's 10:45 pm EST now, I'll see yawl there...till midnight most likely...or some point beyond Phwhahaha...ahem.
As far as clearing goes, I can tell them to get it done and I have whatever scaffolding I need at my disposal, all I'm pricing here is the labor, materials and design, if it's chosen.
Posted by Monte Jumper (Member # 1106) on :
I guess I don't understand...if price is no object why do you have to bid it.Take it on a T& M basis and bill them when your done.
All you need know is the price of materials and your shop rate plus what the market will bear and your home free.
Posted by bronzeo (Member # 1408) on :
On a completely different avenue, I would talk them into a detachable panel , and done in your domain, then attached to the wall. I think you could create a better distressed look, do a better job, and could be serviced easier in the future......If they are intent on the mural look, I would consider a hvlp touchup gun at about 70.00 from harbor freight to serve as a large airbrush. You won't be sorry on this size of job. They expell just the right amount of material for this type of work, and have the control of an air brush. Use the airbrush for the fine detail. Watch for any overspray floating in the wind with either gun. I saw a company pay over 400 thousand bucks in settlements, getting on cars because of floating paint up to a quarter mile away. Hope you land the job...Jack
[ February 16, 2002, 06:51 AM: Message edited by: bronzeo ]
Posted by Linda Silver Eagle (Member # 274) on :
Jack, I believe they want that "We've been here forever" look on the wall.
I got to see some pics of the detail one can airbrush on a brick wall, so it's sounding like fun to me!
I turned in the bid yesterday morning, and I'll probably get to hear back next week on it.
(Jack edited his post so, here goes...hehehe)
Thank you Jack, on the good wish!
Most of it will be rolled on, and could probably use fitches in lieu of the airbrush, at least from what I drew, but some fade may be required.
I'm not about to buy their staff each a new car! Hahahaha! But thank you so for the heads up on it!
[ February 16, 2002, 06:57 AM: Message edited by: Linda Silver Eagle ]
Posted by bronzeo (Member # 1408) on :
Linda, You might think about stippleing some mud and some other fine debries on in little spots and then paint over all. Then take a large scraper and scrape over the who mural to remove odd chips in various areas. If you miss a few they will fall off eventually anyway. Just a thought. Jack
Posted by Linda Silver Eagle (Member # 274) on :
That's another great idea Jack! I'm not sure what their "vision" of old is. they did say they didn't want it faded or anything...I'm at a loss hahaha! I'll find out what they want when I get there, I did put in the bid, a hundred dollars an hour to smack it with a wire brush hehehe. I hope I don't have to do that for too long!
Posted by Rob Clark (Member # 787) on :
Love to see the concept Linda, then I could comment a little better, but it sounds very interesting.
Also love to see you "smack it about with a brick" but wouldn't recommend it.
One way I get "airbrushed effect " on a wall is to use the ole "underpainting" trick. When you brush artwork onto a brick wall, the paint inevitably collects in the morter lines which makes the bricks stand out even more, so brush or roll your basic colors in and then apply the deeper shadows and stronger highlights with a " big Gun" airbrush.
See page 3 (not the gallery) on my web site, the big art of the puppie has been done this way. robclark.net
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but wouldn't recommend it.