I've read that there is flattening paste for One Shot lettering enamel, but in a short deadline pinch... is there something other than flattening paste that I can use to get the glossy One-Shot to flatten? I have to letter some exterior room doors and the customer doesn't want gloss paint.
Posted by Curt Stenz (Member # 82) on :
Kurt, I have used baby powder, not saying it is the best choice. You may be able to locate some flattening paste at a place like Sherwin-Williams. I used to get it from the local Mautz Paint store. I believe it is a generic product and not 'brand' specific, make sure it is for oil.
Posted by Dave Grundy (Member # 103) on :
talcum powder will also work in a pinch.
Posted by stein Saether (Member # 430) on :
Buff it with a 3M kitchen-scrub when paint is fully dried.
Posted by Kurt Gaber (Member # 256) on :
Thank you for your input. I called Sherwin-Williams before I posted here and they said they did not have any flattening agent. I also had wondered about baby powder or charcoal because back in the day of hand painting everything, I recall the paint did flatten somewhat if you had too much pounce powder from the patterns! Oops..
I ended up getting some flattening agent for enamel at an automotive paint store. The direction was 10 to 50% added which I thought was pretty vague, but I gave it a try and I don't think I added quite enough yesterday. It did make the paint rather sticky though, but I'll add more to today's paint and these will be interior rooms, and walls so the flat finish will be a bit more desired. Yesterday was exterior and in the sun and wind, so I had all of the elements working against me! Thanks again Letterhead friends!
Posted by Dave Sherby (Member # 698) on :
With today's One Shot, just put it out in the sun for a few days. Posted by bruce ward (Member # 1289) on :
what Dave said!
Posted by Rick Sacks (Member # 379) on :
We used to flatten enamel by adding corn starch. I don't know if you can get no GMO corn starch for organic paint?
Posted by Dave Grundy (Member # 103) on :
Good one Rick!!!! Posted by Chuck Peterson (Member # 70) on :
Here's one I heard for varnish, not sure if it would work on One Shot. I'm not even sure it works on varnish, I have not tried it. When it is just a little tacky, wipe it with a wet chamois.
Chamois leather (British pronunciation: /ˈʃæmwɑː/[1] or American pronunciation: /ʃæmˈwɑː/[2]) — sometimes known as a wash-leather or by the trade name "Shammy" (/ˈʃæmi/[3]) — is a type of porous leather, traditionally the skin of the chamois (Rupicapra rupicapra), a type of European mountain goat. The leather is favored for its gentle, non-abrasive composition and absorption properties. It has a range of uses
[ September 14, 2016, 09:37 PM: Message edited by: Chuck Peterson ]
Posted by Rick Sacks (Member # 379) on :
Chuck, that's like when we letter something and the fog comes in and it looses its gloss. Problem is it usually looses it unevenly.
Posted by Raymond Chapman (Member # 361) on :
Why not just buy an interior satin enamel paint from Sherwin Williams?
Posted by Raymond Chapman (Member # 361) on :
Why not just buy an interior satin enamel paint from Sherwin Williams? Why One-Shot?
Posted by Dave Sherby (Member # 698) on :
Exterior doors Ray. But you have a point. Mack water based quills work great.
Posted by Sheila Ferrell (Member # 3741) on :
Yeh - not sure why ya have to use only One-Shot - but I love it that you do ...
Old One-Shot joke: Customer: "I wanted the finish to be flat, not glossy."
Signer: "It will be in a year ..."
lol ANY-way - used to could buy flattening agent - and I bought some stuff recently that reduces sheen - but the point is - ALL of these things do affect the performance of the paint and therefore you should strive to use some sort of exterior flat paint which you can have custom mixed even in quarts. We're talkin 15-16 bux here - no biggie and you'll use the remaining somewhere -sometime.
Aside from all these replies - your motto is ' Just Wing It' and that will hold up for any decision! Posted by Rick Sacks (Member # 379) on :
cut a mask and buy a rattle can of flat black rustoleum
Posted by Kurt Gaber (Member # 256) on :
I ended up using automotive grade flattening agent for acrylic enamel. It has a really strong odor, but seemed to work great and the paint coverage was really very good! Then, after I had much of the work done, I was able to find some Chromatic flattening paste and I tried that yesterday on the same big project on some other doors... it was a burnt orange and it did not cover as well. It says right on the can to go 1 to 1 for ratio for completely flat finish. Not sure if it was just the orange, but this didn't cover near as well and will have to be second coated. Thanks again for your input everyone.
Posted by Chuck Peterson (Member # 70) on :
I was in a museum yesterday with historical artifacts from the early days of San Diego. They have an old wooden wine press brought over from Spain that looked like it could flatten a paint can easily.
Posted by Preston McCall (Member # 351) on :
They used to make a flattening agent, but have not seen it for years. Musta been some bad pizza to be around. Probably a methyl based resin, I guess. The auto stuff is adequate. I heard, but never tried using cornstarch. Might work, but it might shorten the short life of one shot. For my picture frames, if I want a flat finish, I just steel wool it down and wax with Johnson's floor way to keep the finger oil prints at bay.
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