I admit to being a "newbiee" Everyone is when they first start. I have asked questions in this forum and have had them answered too but recently some members have ignored my querys; either because I don't "do enough business" or, "I ain't worth the time". All too often it is the same faces saying the same things and now it's feeling that this is a soap box just for them. The question is: How did you start except by asking? You have talents and capabilitities far beyond mine so why shut me out because I do not know? do enough "business", or ain't worth the time because I don't make big bucks?
Posted by Rick Chavez (Member # 2146) on :
I'm sorry, you say something? C'mon that was funny....
If you are here long enough you will get in a flamewar, get a few nasty e-mails telling you too F-off and learn a whole bunch too. I myself have only met a couple of people, many have been here years and are very comfortable with thier relationships with a few people and others are very inviting, give it time. You will have a great time or stomp away in a fit....
Posted by Sonny Franks (Member # 588) on :
What is it you want to know? I haven't noticed any of your posts where you were "shut out". Often, because of the established relationships already developed here, it seems very hard to break in. Trust me, we've ALL felt that way and most of us haven't forgotten. Jump in , ask away, we're here to help each other (and don't kid yourself: very few of us are making the big bucks)
Posted by Curtis hammond (Member # 2170) on :
Welcome Your not being ignored..
I may be mistaken,, But you have only one post you initiated and it was answered by several pro's who really know thier stuff. There was no need for 20 others to post to it.. they gave u a perfect answer..
All your other postings are on some one else's thread. Its kind of hard to dance with you that way..
Posted by Kissymatina (Member # 2028) on :
From what I can see, this is your second question in this forum, 8th post total.
Posted by Kelly Thorson (Member # 2958) on :
Hi - from another Kelly - they just think you are me.....
I can't figure out where this is coming from. Here is a neat liitle trick, click on the profile icon on one of your posts - it has a rollover that will tell you which one. Now click on "view recent posts" in the upper right. There doesn't seem to be any reason there for you to feel that way. Hang around for a while and you should feel more comfortable. BTW are you a M or F...just curious.
Posted by Gavin Chachere (Member # 1443) on :
Best way not to be ignored here is to just toss that search button out the window and ask a question thats already been asked about 7500 times over a 6month stretch,just like youre an old regular here...either that or make a post askin for free clipart,software or fonts....any of those is sure to generate enuff traffic on a thread to where it looks like a tophat give away at the asshat factory. Post more
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
got any nak-ed pics you can post....thatll get our attention.....otherwise sit up late at nite and try to "STUMP THE OLDTIMERS" with some thin they mght not know.....
Posted by Russ McMullin (Member # 5617) on :
I would recommend you introduce yourself to the group. Give some details about what you do, your history in the business, and any other information that people might find helpful in getting to know you.
When you reply to someone else's post, sometimes people will respond to what you've said, but often they won't. It doesn't mean they don't like you, or that they are purposely ignoring you. To get more feedback on the forum, you need to initiate more posts of your own. You will get responses.
If you stick around long enough, you will start getting to know people on a more individual basis, which makes the whole experience more rewarding. There are some really really nice people here.
Posted by Kelly Thorson (Member # 2958) on :
Yeah like Russ Posted by Doug Allan (Member # 2247) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kelly Sawyer: Being a man of few natural talents here is a trick I use ...
(posted for Kelly... well, kinda for OP too )
...don't feel like the lone ranger Kelly, I've been here every day for almost 4 years, but last month I spent an hour cropping & uploading pics to get some shop renovation feedback & another thread surfaced about the same time where someone started a topic by mistake & edited the title to say "ignore this"
...dang, that post got endless attention & I nearly had a conversation with myself to keep my post alive untill a few charitable souls chimed in out of pity Posted by Ray Rheaume (Member # 3794) on :
Kelly,
I find myself reading this post and realizing how much like a live meet this website can sometimes be.
At my first one, I felt a little intimidated by the talented group of folks I was begining to meet and was very absorbed by watching them work and listening in on discussions. I was nervous as all get out. Within a few hours, I'd found that I had many common experiences with other Letterheads, the initial jitters and feeling that I wasn't worthy to be there passed and the rest of the weekend was nothing short of wonderful.
As time has passed, I've had the pleasure of meeting many of the people here in Letterville. Several have become good friends. We do tend to throw about some inside jokes, personal jabs in the name of fun (like the current tagline jokes of late) and some off topic stuff, but whn a question does come up, you'll often find it gets responses in very little time.
There are no stupid questions, just stupid answers. Ask away. There's plenty of fun loving and passionate sign folks ready to help here.
and most importantly...
Welcome to Letterville! Rapid
[ August 02, 2005, 07:24 AM: Message edited by: Ray Rheaume ]
Posted by Jill Marie Welsh (Member # 1912) on :
....maybe it's your cologne? Nah, seriously, if I'd have noticed your question I would have replied.
So here goes: After I pounce, if there is a heavy buildup of graphite or chalk, I gently blow off the area with compressed air BEFORE painting. Sometimes I ever blow on it manually. Anthing to knock that chalk down. I know that it is harder to pounce with a machine-cut pattern, but try using a lighter touch. Also, I plot my pounce patterns in reverse, this seems to make them work better. Just flip & pounce.
I didn't mean to ignore ya. Honest. This place IS cliquish at the best of times, but we always try to welcome newbies...at least I do. Sometimes you might need to add "BUMP" to your own topic just to get it noticed. But PLEASE, no nekkid pix or mullet pix or Speedo pix, unless you look like Fabio.
Love....Jill
Posted by Janette Balogh (Member # 192) on :
Hi Kelly!
The more you put in, the more you get out of this place. We get to know the squeeky wheels around here better that way.
Start squeekin' more!
Nettie
Posted by Bobbie Rochow (Member # 3341) on :
Hi, Kelly! They are ALL right.
I was having a problem on how to back HDU last week & noticed Chuck's thread & I read it. then I had more questions, so I just asked on HIS thread. No answers. Then I realized I needed to post my OWN thread, & I did. I recieved some very helpful tips after doing that. Sometimes you will get answers by adding to someone else's thread, but it is better I think to post your own.
And yes, it is easy to feel "left out", I have felt that way before too, but I shove it aside & post anyway!
I have not been on here long either, & I have been to 1 meet, before I came on here & got to know people a little. I am planning on going to Jill's meet in a few weeks & boy, I am fighting a fear of meeting some of these people in person! Not to mention that my hand lettering skills need desperate help! But I going, I want to learn!!!
Don't give up, keep posting, before you know it, you won't be able to stay away from the board for more than a day!
Posted by Gene Golden (Member # 3934) on :
Hey Kelly, I just looked back at your post about the pounce. I believe you got all of the information that one would ever need to use a pounce!
One thing you may consider doing is to RETURN to the topic and let people know that you were satisfied with their answers - a little tip of the hat , or a "thanks for the help" kind of thing. That way, we konw you understood, or you can ask a more specific question for clarification.
It certainly didn't look like you were ignored at all.
Remember, it may not look like it, but we are all professionals who are also working, not just hanging out here online as a helpline. (Okay, maybe some of us are not always online.) I happen to look in several times a day. Some topics catch my eye - some don't.
When starting a topic, don't make it too cryptic. Some people start with: "What do you think?" How's this? My latest! Help!!!
They are not asking a specific enough question to get quality responses. Keep this in mind, and you may fare better.
Look at it this way, you just got a slew of responses here. It is a DIALOGUE. Talk back to us.
[ August 02, 2005, 10:39 AM: Message edited by: Gene Golden ]
Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
Nahhh...I think that it is because Kelly has bad breath and his Mom dresses him funny!
Posted by Kelly Sawyer (Member # 5760) on :
Thanks for the responses everyone. I appreciate it. I also apologize for "painting with too broad a brush" as it were. I suppose that a more precise stroke is nessesary. In truth, the following didn't not occur on the Bullboard but bringing them to the group seems the only way to get answers. 1. Panel jams are annouced and I wanted to know what the requirements are as to what the size of a panel is. I sent the e-mail to the one announcing it on this forum and to date it it still appears to have fell in to the Void. 2. I asked a couple other members about screenprinting and while one did respond another didn't but still acts like everybodies favorite uncle on the subject (you know who you are). The one who did respond sent a very nice, detailed response as to what they do but when I tried to place an order it too fell into the Void. 3. When I wanted to know just how a certain effect was achieved in a a posting I saw here that one actually got RUDE and told me that Kansas wasn't worth their time. As if California is the end-all be all of this World which is in itself a touchy subject to a man from Montana who experienced the effect of those folk who turned it into their playground and put too many good people out of work and out of their homes, like me. All of the above did not take place on the forum, rather they were private communications I attempted but the fact remains that if they had not been members and apparently exemplars of this fine and noble profession here I would not even have asked. For insults and put-downs all I have to do is look to that space on the other side of the counter but one this side of the "push" decal. I'll still come here, finding this forum was the second best thing I ever did, the first being taking a challenge to paint a sign all those years ago. To those I slapped with the broad brush I apologize, to those it covered with accuracy I say "If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it must be a duck." To Kelly: The last time I looked I got an "outie" if that makes difference. To Si: Fresh breath does not matter when you always smell like enamel and cargo pants will ALWAYS RULE especially when you don't have 8 hands to hold 12 things. Thanks again everyone, and a special "good buddy" (pick one) slap on the back or hug to those who took the time to guide me when I entered the dusty world of pouncing. For the record I bought an electro-pouncer and am quite happy with the tips I picked up here.
Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
Kelly...to really get to know some of the ppl here....log on to Chat in the evening!
You will find that we are not all evil!
Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
OK. It was a couple of your emails that were ignored?
If I send an email asking for some info and don't get an answer, I'll resend the email if it's something I really want to know. Some people get a lot of mails, and then there's also email filters that can sometimes "eat" them before they're delivered.
I had that happen with Kelly T. a few times before we found out that her email filter didn't like my "signature" attachment. All of my emails to her were being rerouted to her trash bin.
BTW, my problem is that I'm not ignored enough. LOL
Posted by Steve Eisenreich (Member # 1444) on :
E-mail is not perfect if it was really important pick up the phone.
Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
And by the way, just for the record, we ARE NOT ducks. Like Steve said, if it's important, pick up the phone before bitching that you didn't get a reply to an email or two.
Posted by W. R. Pickett (Member # 3842) on :
...And don't get your underwear in a bunch! ; ' ) ...Welcome tio L'ville, hehe.
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
Kelly,
Sounds like you haven't been fully initiated yet if the worst that happened was that your emails were ignored and you got one rude reply.
A post about any innocent topic will ultimately turn into the War of the Worlds....so you need to quickly develop the skin of a Walmart trampoline to repel the onslaught of rude replies and profanity laced emails that will surely come.
All in all there are enough people that are genuinely as *nice* and caring in private messages and emails as they appear to be on this board.
Just as it is in life, there will always be people that don't like you for a variety of illegitimate reasons.
I wouldn't worry too much about not making it into the "click". That's usually the sound you hear before the gun goes off. Posted by Steve Eisenreich (Member # 1444) on :
You do not hear the click of the bullet being fired. Bullets travel faster than the speed of sound.
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
Clarification: Talking about the click of the hammer being engaged (cocking the trigger - and assuming a mental picture of the ol' west single action revolver - understanding that semi-auto's wouldn't adhere to this word-picture.)...not the hammer striking the firing pin. Thus - "Click, (followed by a squeeze of the trigger) and Bang." Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :
Kelly,
Now you can no longer claim to be ignored, your thread even attracted Todd Gill and Doug Allen - those two alone could propel your posts into some of the longest running threads in Letterville.
See? You just need to start your own new topics to get attention. Posted by Curtis hammond (Member # 2170) on :
doug hasn't quoted yet,, so theres still some chance this thread post count will go into the higher numbers..
lol
Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike Pipes: Kelly,
Now you can no longer claim to be ignored, your thread even attracted Todd Gill and Doug Allen - those two alone could propel your posts into some of the longest running threads in Letterville.
See? You just need to start your own new topics to get attention.
And Bible study will begin any post now. Posted by Raymond Chapman (Member # 361) on :
Hey...I noticed...now, I've got to go coat out some MDO.
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
See what I mean Kelly? Don Coplen's even offering to start a Bible study! I told you there are friendly people in here....nyuk, nyuk. Posted by Kissymatina (Member # 2028) on :
Some spam filters are way too sensitive and some people never think to see if there is anything in their spam folder that isn't spam.
Sometimes emails just disintegrate in cyberspace.
Also, this thread is your 8th and 9th posts. It'd be real easy to miss all of your previous posts, making your name totally unheard of. Yes, we all share info here, we also all sorta know each other too. To tell you the truth, if I got an email from someone I've never heard of wanting information on how I did something, I'm not sure I'd answer it.
Just reminds me of the guy who called that wanted to make his own sign... but wanted me to tell him what to use, where to get it and how to do it. Oh yeah, he wanted me to give him the phone number and prices from my supplier too. Posted by Patrick Whatley (Member # 2008) on :
Oh yeah, that's what you need to do for answers...log into Chat some night, the later the better. You'll end up with more knowlege than you really, really ever wanted to know. Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
Good point, Patrick. lol
Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :
quote:Originally posted by Patrick Whatley: Oh yeah, that's what you need to do for answers...log into Chat some night, the later the better. You'll end up with more knowlege than you really, really ever wanted to know.
Hmmmm.. yeaaaaah... that might scare Kelly away. Posted by Doug Allan (Member # 2247) on :
quote: Just as it is in life, there will always be people that don't like you for a variety of illegitimate reasons.
..yeah & then there are the guys who do like, respect & generally get along with you who will still give you a hellacious debate at the drop of hat... just because we can (uh.. I mean they)
quote: You do not hear the click of the bullet being fired. Bullets travel faster than the speed of sound.
...sounds like all you guys are imagining yourselves on the wrong end of the gun... if you're assuming a mental picture... might as well come up a winner
quote:Originally posted by Curtis hammond: doug hasn't quoted yet,, so theres still some chance this thread post count will go into the higher numbers..
lol
DUDE!! watchyou smokin'... I started my presence here with a quote ... an I had 2 more cued up before I even saw your post!
(hey Barry... Don's callin' ya)
Posted by James Donahue (Member # 3624) on :
Tonight's sermon is based on Proverbs chapter 17, verse 11. * * * * * * * * * * * * * Immediately following the service there will be a collection for Mr. Donahue's medical expenses. * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sometimes, a response is SO perfect,SO comprehensive, SO wise, and SO inteligent that there's nothing left to say. * * * * * * * * * * * * * Yes I did just buy a bridge at a great price, how did you know???? * * * * * * * * * * * * Seriously though, when I first came here, I thought the internet was this big, impersonal place where nobody knew the others, and I responded accordingly. That was a mistake.
Posted by Frank Magoo (Member # 3950) on :
Totally edited in interests of civility, I won't let Letterville see my NASTY side...nuff said...
Posted by Stephen Faulkner (Member # 2511) on :
integrity........
aint it a bitch!
Posted by Dave Grundy (Member # 103) on :
Still feel "ignored" Kelly???
I remember reading your only "initial" post and I din't reply because I had no useful information to give.
As far as nasty or discouraging e-mails are concerned...didn't do them either!!
BUT if you want to send ME "nasty" stuff in e-mails..that's OK...I LIKE looking at pictures!!!
(PS..Joe and Si, I don't need any pics of you guys though!)
Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :
Dave I don't know where Si gets all those nude pics of OP but it's plain ol' frightening. Posted by Curtis hammond (Member # 2170) on :
Kelly
If that is your real name.. Now that you managed to alienate every one in chat tonight.. You may find yourself posting to your self and being ignored for real...
good day..
Posted by Michael R. Bendel (Member # 5847) on :
I'm also new here & as Kelly's comment was "to the point" to say the least... I learned alot from all of your posts! Thanks people. Kelly... post an interesting question & make room in your email!
Posted by Kelly Sawyer (Member # 5760) on :
Curtis, I've been to Slidell and it's nothing to be proud of or brag about. As far as the "Incident" in Chat, you flamed me but I was the only one who stated who I am and where I be and I did it loudly and proudly. You, on the other hand hid and tossed your insults as if they are pearls of wisdom instead of the nuggets of crap they are. On the whole though, I enjoyed myself with the experience, and I will not use a screen name and I will go "toe to toe" with anyone. In the future, I shall gather what I can that seems relevent from the dross and drivel.
Posted by KARYN BUSH (Member # 1948) on :
way to meet new friends and influence people! gee sorry i missed the monkey shyt fight at the zoo....but it sounds like it was an interesting evening!
Posted by David Fisher (Member # 107) on :
You were not flamed, you were treated waaaaay beyond fairly after you baited on numerous occasions. Regarding dross and drivel, if you can consistently demonstrate that you can tell the difference (while keeping your hand off your gland) and add something useful to the discussion, then perhaps someone might listen to you. If not, stfuyupos.
[ August 03, 2005, 10:32 AM: Message edited by: David Fisher ]
Posted by Frank Magoo (Member # 3950) on :
Geet;
Sure, easy for you to say, shall I send in the white monster to decorate??? Posted by Frank Magoo (Member # 3950) on :
This thread hi-jacked for the purpose of advancement of signwriting everywhere. And, to BS w/an old friend... Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
quote:Originally posted by Michael R. Bendel: I'm also new here & as Kelly's comment was "to the point" to say the least... I learned alot from all of your posts! Thanks people. Kelly... post an interesting question & make room in your email!
I'm really not sure what you could have gleened from the post responses on this thread. The entire thread was started on a false premise. Bull**** in, bull**** out.
Not receiving prompt replies to every email does not constitute being ignored. There are plenty of reasons not to get replies, and all but one of them have nothing to do with the recipient.
That being said, I hope he can get back on track here. It sounds like he went on a bridge burning mission last night on the letterhead chat.
Posted by Bobbie Rochow (Member # 3341) on :
But Don, didn't you say "bible study'????
I'm still wait'n for the bible study!!!!! Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
Bobbie, I saw one comin' up...looks like I was wrong (you've been here long enough to surely know when to ignore me), but this thread's apparently not done yet, either. LOL
You all packed for Jill's? Wish I were going. PA is like half a country away from here.
[ August 03, 2005, 11:24 AM: Message edited by: Don Coplen ]
Posted by Bobbie Rochow (Member # 3341) on :
We may not agree with each other, Don, but you are a good boy, all in all. Lol!
No, I am not packed for Jill's, & I need to get some jobs done so i can send my $ this week!
I am really excited. I am going to bug the heck out of some of you guys that are going!!! I need help!
and kelly's post goes on.....
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
my take on the visit from you in chat last nite was this: you are a 12 year old trying to act 46 and with an ego and attitude of a total idiot with no more interest in learning anything about signs then a p i s s ant!!! i came in to chat in the middle of your rant of how you are a "skin" and we all will feel the rath of you in the future....so childish. you took dead aim at joey madden for no reason. you basically told all of us that were gona your words "blow right by all of us" in the sign world. so anything you have to say ....you think you was ignored before......now you dont even exist in the same world as me. to many like you have come here and have gone.....your nothing more then a FART IN THE WIND, you show up make a little stink, and THEN GONE!!!!!!!!! and you think your a BIG S H I T !!!!
[ August 03, 2005, 01:12 PM: Message edited by: old paint ]
Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
Man, OP...I had no idea it was THAT bad last night. The first clue was David Fisher complaining about the creep's attitude...David's been here for years and so far as I can remember has never had a bad word to say about anyone, ever. Geesh.
This puts a possible new spin on what may have happened that he had a couple emails not answered.
What a jerk.
[ August 03, 2005, 01:27 PM: Message edited by: Don Coplen ]
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
yep it was so bad I LEFT!!!!!!! was noend to this idiots ranting....it was attack then "poor me" then attack....person needs a lot of medication....and counsuling....FOR YEARS!!!
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
"Fart in the wind"......wasn't that a song by Kansas?!
Anyway, I'm proud to say I haven't and don't intend on ever getting involved in the "chat" area here...it sounds like Letterville BS X 10.....mixed in with a healthy dose of slander and gossip.
I know you're against prescription drugs OP, but I hope you can now see that in certain cases there is a good case to be made for Valium.....
I'm still sitting in my pew waiting for Reverand Coplen's sermon, which he promised would be coming. Hehehe Posted by Mike O'Neill (Member # 470) on :
If it walks like a troll, and talks like a troll, and smells like a troll ... IT JUST MIGHT BE A TROLL
Posted by Gene Golden (Member # 3934) on :
Amazing! Two pages of responses to Kelly, and the only response he has to all of us is to trash talk to one of our members.
Kelly, Maybe you need to sit back a little and watch how things work before you jump into the deep end. This really is not a way to make friends and gain respect - or get replies.
Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :
Anyone in chat last night snag his IP address? That'll tell us who it really is.
Posted by jack wills (Member # 521) on :
Go to work.... Stop it !
Actually I should not have read past the post.
Ignore me please.
CrazyJack
Posted by Kissymatina (Member # 2028) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kelly Sawyer: ... but I was the only one who stated who I am and where I be and I did it loudly and proudly.
BS!
That is a bold faced, flat out lie.
Last night when you first came into chat, every single one of us introduced ourselves to you and welcomed you. I was going to ignore this rant, but I will not sit idly by while people spew forth lies like this.
Posted by Patrick Whatley (Member # 2008) on :
I told you you'd learn more than you wanted in Chat but would you listen? Noooooo! Just had to go pokin' at it with a stick didn't you?
Posted by David Harding (Member # 108) on :
Kelly is officially no longer ignored, although it looks like he may end up finding himself somewhat snubbed.
Posted by Barry Branscum (Member # 445) on :
and you guys thought i was bad.....
Posted by Rick Beisiegel (Member # 3723) on :
Why can't we all just get along, play nice and make signs??
Bruce, you up for Chinese? I'm buying!
Barry, you made a funny...and I agree
Posted by Kimberly Zanetti (Member # 2546) on :
quote: and you guys thought i was bad.....
I vowed to stay off of this post but you just gave me a much needed laugh Barry! Thank you and I'm being serious, not facetious. Posted by Barry Branscum (Member # 445) on :
Posted by Ray Rheaume (Member # 3794) on :
Odd.
Somehow my IP address was blacklisted last night and I wasn't able to join chat either through the green button or mirc.
Coincidence? Rapid
Posted by Curtis hammond (Member # 2170) on :
black listed is some kind of server error on MIRC..
Most often it goes away in a few minutes. Sometimes it takes a day.
Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
Kiya, Kelly whatever.
I was on chat last night and asked who was Kiya (whatever name it was) and what Kiya did for a living, after that all hell broke loose and from then on Kiya was a friggin MORON in capital letters.
Thats all I have to say.
Posted by KARYN BUSH (Member # 1948) on :
shyt i missed it!
Posted by Jackson Smart (Member # 187) on :
Whoa dude.... that was quick. You burnt out in record time.
Crazy world...eh? Posted by Steve Shortreed (Member # 436) on :
I talked with Kelly on the phone tonight. Like many of you, I assumed he was someone from the past with a new name trying to stir up the neighborhood. I was wrong this time.
Kelly reminds me of myself in many ways. In other ways, he's not much different than some of you. He's got all sorts of art experience, but no clue about sign painting and the supplies we use. I can remember a time I thought a lettering quill had a feather. True story!
I'm not saying Kelly is a Saint. He's had his far share of knocks and admits he may have a bit of a chip on his shoulder. He's impatient and wants to know everything now. When challenged, he fires back with both barrels. He likes a few beers in the evening, and admits to going over the top sometimes. Drinking and typing never seems to end up well.
This is just my 2 cents, but I see a Letterhead in Kelly. He's passionate about our "thing" and eager to learn and explore his potential. That's good enough for me. I shudder to think what may have been had I not discovered Letterheads back in 1983. It's no coincidence that that is also the year I gave up my own serious drinking problem and began to believe that Steve Shortreed might be more than just a bum.
Someone on chat tonight said that once an asshole, you are always an asshole. If that's true, I thank God everyday that some early Letterheads were able to see past my faults and give this asshole a handup.
Just some food for thought.
[ August 04, 2005, 03:37 AM: Message edited by: Steve Shortreed ]
Posted by Doug Allan (Member # 2247) on :
well, like Steve always says...
if you give an asshole a handout.. he'll have food...
but if you teach an asshole to fish, you'll have food for thought!
If Steve says yer a worthy asshole... well, you managed to get on his good side at least as much as I have despite my own arrogance...
so bait yer hook, cast yer lot again & try not to have too much beer & whine with that chip... ya just may learn something Posted by Bruce Bowers (Member # 892) on :
C'mon Bicycle... I'll pick you up.
Posted by Kelly Sawyer (Member # 5760) on :
Being an asshole is second nature to me. Liking metaphors I would ask all to listen to the song by The Presidents of the United States of America called "Video Killed the Radio Star". Back home I was something but now I've been put in my place, far down the line of evolution, but Steve is right, I am impatient to learn now that I now how dumb I am. Again, to one and all, I apologize for my behavior (Think Sapphire's "Fess Up When you Mess Up"). For the record I truely enjoyed talking with Steve last night. He set me straight and also took the time to find out if I am who I say I am. I am always. I do not hide ever. I am loud and proud and often obnoxious. This Man is honored to be allowed here and on Chat last night after being so rude the night before. Sign me off to the tune of President's "Old Man on the Back Porch" (and if these metaphors caused you to go "huh?" just ask me for the mp3's) and "Peaches". Thank you friends.
Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :
Ahhh....
Kelly is a young'un (maybe?).. Video Killed the Radio Star is a 20+ year old song (1979) by The Buggles. It was the very first video MTV ever broadcasted in 1981.. back when they actually played music videos. Posted by Kelly Sawyer (Member # 5760) on :
You got me there Mike. Never know when you'll run across someone smarter than you but I am always looking (he holds the lantern high). Presidents did it better though.
Posted by Kelly Thorson (Member # 2958) on :
I always admire someone who can digest their humble pie...but that only works if you can keep it down. Tread carefully & get to know us a little before you rise to the bait again. There are some who will find it difficult to clean the slate completely and it may take some time to regain their trust. If you are hot headed, my friend, they will eat you alive. This is a place of sharing and comraderie for the most part. There isn't much room for egos here, uneccesarily large ones tend to be deflated quite rapidly. Welcome to Letterville, may your time here be pleasant. Posted by Kelly Sawyer (Member # 5760) on :
Garbage's "Boys Want To Fight"
Posted by Kelly Sawyer (Member # 5760) on :
In truth though I am more Incubus's "Are You In?"
Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
I woulda guessed AC/DC's "Big Balls".
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Posted by Kelly Sawyer (Member # 5760) on :
I got the biggest balls of them all. Wanna dance? Or do you **** like a puppy? 2 left feet? No feet? I be dancing "at the Rascal Fair and I call you out NOW. Challege me. Bitch! I got the ego to paint and you do not want to challenge me. Anything you can do I'll do better and more "splendiforess". Like I said before and many times since, put your balls in my hand and we'll see who screams first, foremost, and loudly. Sorry for the poker face. Actually the only thing I am wondering at this point is how I show you folk what I do. "Bull**** talks but the artistry talks"
Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kelly Sawyer: Actually the only thing I am wondering at this point is how I show you folk what I do. "Bull**** talks but the artistry talks"
I'm probably in the majority wondering how in hell you'd think any of us would give a flying **** what you do. I, for one, have seen enough.
Posted by Frank Magoo (Member # 3950) on :
Messing w/Don is by far the dumbest thing you've done yet!!! Boy are you in for a surprise!!!! Yeah, go ahead, call out Don... Posted by Jane Diaz (Member # 595) on :
Some of the GREAT sign people that WE have meet over the years, like Gary Anderson, David Butler, and others that we ALL look up to in our industry are humble, kind, sharing individuals. I'm confused... You say:
quote: You have talents and capabilitities far beyond mine so why shut me out because I do not know? do enough "business", or ain't worth the time because I don't make big bucks?
What exactly DO you want from us? Obviously, friendship doesn't interest you?
Posted by Gonzalo (Peewee)Curiel (Member # 3837) on :
I wonder if anyone has ever been banned from here? I think we found our first candidate!!!!
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Posted by Russ McMullin (Member # 5617) on :
quote:If you are hot headed, my friend, they will eat you alive.
So true! But Kelly Sawyer won't take any good advice that's given. So far I haven't seen Kelly post any of his work, and he hasn't asked any public questions. Kelly isn't interested in signs or art. He is interested in stirring up gorilla dust. What evidence is there to the contrary? Kelly reminds me of that pitbull full of porcupine quills. He just can't let it go.
Posted by Frank Magoo (Member # 3950) on :
Russ;
Gorilla dust?
Couldn't agree more Russ, but, I felt sorry for the pitbull, it's not his fault, he's a product of nature, Kelly's just a drunk.....
Posted by KARYN BUSH (Member # 1948) on :
quote: I got the biggest balls of them all. Wanna dance? Or do you **** like a puppy? 2 left feet? No feet? I be dancing "at the Rascal Fair and I call you out NOW. Challege me. Bitch! I got the ego to paint and you do not want to challenge me. Anything you can do I'll do better and more "splendiforess". Like I said before and many times since, put your balls in my hand and we'll see who screams first, foremost, and loudly.
wtf is that all about??? i think you've created your own shyt hole dude...have fun sleeping in it...i think you will be shown the door soon...don't let it hit yer ass...you aint makin no friend here.
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Posted by Frank Magoo (Member # 3950) on :
Karyn; I've just got to have that icon!!!! please, w/sugar.....
Posted by Kimberly Zanetti (Member # 2546) on :
I just emailed it to you Frank. :-)
Posted by Curtis hammond (Member # 2170) on :
AS we said in Chat last night..
You posted a Full BLACK LIE in a post that used my name. I did not accept your apology because I know your kind. Your nothing but a unrepentant drunk. And more, several of us knew you would take advantage of Steve.. It was said by several of us you would take this posture....
Go ahead and call us out. Just don't come over here and act on it.. You will find yourself grabbing a hold of a tigers tail. This I guarantee is not a rant.
So, You are now on Ignore,, full time.
buh bye.. Troll...
Posted by Russ McMullin (Member # 5617) on :
Frank, I feel sorry for Kelly too, but he doesn't have sense enough to be helped. All he had to do was post an introduction, and then start asking normal questions and giving normal responses. He can't. He hasn't figured out that bluster and whine is a recipe for a very negative experience.
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Posted by Jill Marie Welsh (Member # 1912) on :
.......I've got the tar if you guys have the feathers.... Hey, I forgot to add, a helpful tip whilst using an Electro-Pounce is to lick the tip OFTEN, Kelly. Love....Jill
Posted by Frank Magoo (Member # 3950) on :
AMEN RUSS;
Heheh, we didn't exactly qualify for the Nobel when we first met, but it didn't lead to the nastiness of this situation. Over time we both have gained a mutual respect, void of any negative actions on either of our parts, it can and has been done... I suspect this fella's problems stem from fondness to the bottle, not so much lack of common sense. But that doesn't excuse bad behavior... You ever coming back into chat? lol
Posted by Ray Rheaume (Member # 3794) on :
This topic should be titled "Why am I ignorant?'
....and closed.
Rapid
Posted by Doug Allan (Member # 2247) on :
I'll second that
Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
Hmmmmmm this morning :
quote: This Man is honored to be allowed here and on Chat last night after being so rude the night before. Sign me off to the tune of President's "Old Man on the Back Porch" (and if these metaphors caused you to go "huh?" just ask me for the mp3's) and "Peaches". Thank you friends.
And this afternoon :
quote: I got the biggest balls of them all. Wanna dance? Or do you **** like a puppy? 2 left feet? No feet? I be dancing "at the Rascal Fair and I call you out NOW. Challege me. Bitch! I got the ego to paint and you do not want to challenge me. Anything you can do I'll do better and more "splendiforess". Like I said before and many times since, put your balls in my hand and we'll see who screams first, foremost, and loudly. Sorry for the poker face. Actually the only thing I am wondering at this point is how I show you folk what I do. "Bull**** talks but the artistry talks"
Something definitly wrong with is guy!
Posted by Russ McMullin (Member # 5617) on :
Frank, I keep wanting to get onto chat, but working nights has been an obstacle. After Friday I switch to a daytime schedule so the evenings will be more free. I'll be showing up on chat, and this time I'll try to mind my p's and q's. I did make it the other night for the kiya fireworks though. LOL.
[ August 04, 2005, 10:16 PM: Message edited by: Russ McMullin ]
Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
Posted by Mikes Mischeif (Member # 1744) on :
i bet that dudes a part timer.
Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mikes Mischeif: i bet that dudes a part timer.
And one that had better be keeping notes or if he ever has the nerve to show up at a meet, he won't know who he needs not to turn his back on.
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
"I got the biggest balls of them all. Wanna dance? Or do you **** like a puppy? 2 left feet? No feet? I be dancing "at the Rascal Fair and I call you out NOW. Challege me. Bitch!" i might be wrong but i think this is some lyrics to a song..........rap music probably....
Posted by Steve Shortreed (Member # 436) on :
Well that didn't go the way I hoped. I'm disappointed Kelly was unable to maintain his cool. At the end of the day we were back into personal attacks. That's not what this community is all about.
Your public posting days are over for awhile Kelly. If you are serious about wanting to learn, you'll have to address your questions to me via e-mail.
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