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Kevin Gaffney
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It's been about twenty years since I've done an exterior glass sign., gilded letters in reverse and black background. These jobs were fashionable in Ireland in the eighties and nineties but not anymore. I have two to do now for a client. My question is what type of black paint you people would recommend. Something with maximum adhesion and won't crack over the years

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Kevin Gaffney
Artistik Signs
Kinnegad
County Westmeath
Ireland
044-75187
kevingaffney@eircom.net

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Ian Stewart-Koster
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Can you get a 'drop black' over there?
It's still a readily available standard here. (heavily pigmented, and quick drying and tough in a sort of semigloss.)

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Never heard of it Ian but will google and see if that can be got thank you

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Kevin Gaffney
Artistik Signs
Kinnegad
County Westmeath
Ireland
044-75187
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We used to use a product called Stazon. It was used by neon sign makers to paint black on the parts of the neon glass tube that were to be "blacked out". It is a very opaque, quick drying paint. I bought some a few years ago from a local supplier.

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Jean Shimp
Shimp Sign & Design Co.
Jacksonville Beach, Fl

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W. R. Pickett
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Stazon is brittle, and you have to thin it w. laq thinner. Use 'synthetic silk screen enamel' instead. It's the same material that Rick Glawson sold as "decor back up".

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WR Pickett
Richmond, Va.

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I use best exterior paint and mix in 15-25 % of oil based gold size

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Stein Saether
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I use best exterior paint and mix in 15-25 % of oil based gold size

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Stein Saether
GullSkilt AS
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The Stazon will turn gray over a period of time and like Billy said, it is brittle and won't last very long.

Rick's Decor Black was the best - silk screen enamel.

Don't use lettering enamels. They take a long time to dry and are not easy to clean up the gold around without chipping the paint.

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Chapman Sign Studio
Temple, Texas
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Kent Smith
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Letterhead Sign Supplies has the back up black like Rick's and it works great.

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Kent Smith
Smith Sign Studio
P.O.Box 2385,
Estes Park, CO 80517-2385
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We used Ronan's solid covering lamp black with quick rubbing varnish. Never a problem.

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Bill Riedel
Riedel Sign Co., Inc.
15 Warren Street
Little Ferry, N.J. 07643
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I'm currently using Nazdar's 59000 and/or 6100 synthetic enamel.

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BlueDog Graphics
Wilson, NC

www.BlueDogUSA.com

Warning: A well designed sign may cause fatigue due to increased business.

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