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Brian Dish
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I got a RFQ on signs for outdoor use that specs Red and White Oak for the substrate. I'm in the northeast and am wondering if this is a good choice/idea? The spec is for 1 1/2" thick variable sizes V-routed letters.

So is Oak alright to use?

Also these signs say stained Brown background with white reflective painted letters. Has anyone tried the rustolium reflective coating?

TIA

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Red and white oak? That's a new one for me. Where are the signs going?

I don't see an issue with it - if they're properly prepared. However, based upon experience, I would prefer redwood, cedar or even HDU because I know these substrates will last quite a long time.

Can't help ya with the reflective paint though. I never tried it yet.

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Leonard Gorsky
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oak weathers poorly. very poorly. the RFQ has no clue.

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I would advise against oak also.

Oak is a finicky wood for something like that. It has a very coarse grain that moves with the weather.

It would also be tough to work the carved letters to a smooth finish.

Redwood if they 'have' to have wood, otherwise, HDU all the way.

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For outdoors, I use redwood or cedar; preferably redwood. Red or white oak are great for indoors.

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If you "must" use oak, use quarter sawn white oak.

You will get much smoother cut with white.

I'm with everyone else on this choice of substraight for outdoors. However you mount this, you will have to allow for contraction and expansion across the width of the board or it will surly crack.

Silver (aluminum) leaf might be a good choice rather than a reflective white?

Just some of my thoughts.....

Joe,

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These are the specs. from a Government agency. They say red or white aok and reflective white painted with glass bead!

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Brian
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I tried that reflective paint a few years ago. Had very poor results. You might want to try finding some kind of traffic paint that's reflective.

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Jean Shimp
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Red oak, no. White oak, yes.
They use white oak for fence posts in some places & as Joe said, quarter sawn is the most stable.

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You might expect that these type of specs would come from a government agency. "We're here to help" is ringing in my ears.

My first impression is, " Give 'em what they want."

But I have to go with the others, that their specs are not going to produce good, lasting results.

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glass beads on one shot/bulletin has worked for me. while paint is wet, the beads are applied. you will have to try a few application methods to see which you find comfortable. i just pour and spread the beads covering all paint surfaces and shake off the excess. if you must 'give them what they want,' i agree. white oak is the choice. hard to find here in ca. should be easier in new england.

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