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Steve Luck
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Hi everyone,
I have painted signs with a roller for many years so this may seem like an odd request. I have been trying to use more latex acrylic paints since the 1-shot enamels are not holding up like they used to. I have been able to get a fairly smooth coat with acrylic by using Floetrol additive and working the foam roller back and forth again and again. It takes a lot longer than oil-based paint but it's passable.

I hear that many of you have gone to spraying your boards with a HVLP gun to get a smooth coat with acrylic paints. I never bought one for some silly reason since the foam roller acheived the finish I wanted.

Are their any type of spray guns that I should stay away from? Which ones work best and how much will I be spending? How much PSI do you use and is overspray a problem? Will I need to build a booth or need other equipment?

I would like to get a smooth finish coat with the latex acrylic paints so any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Sign-cerely, Steve

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Steve Luck
Sign Magic Inc.
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Godfrey, Illinois 62035
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HVLP wont do LATEX. these are more for automotive paint. that is another option you may want to try. i been painting board and panels with AUTOMOTIVE PAINT acrylic enamel, for years. long lasting and usually will out last the vinyl.
SPRAYING LATEX:
airless works best for big jobs. for panels and boards your better off with this:
https://www.google.com/#q=wagner+electric+paint+sprayer&hl=en&tbo=u&source=univ&tbm=shop&sa=X&ei=OyAjUbWNCcLKqgH_s4CwCQ&sqi=2&ved=0CGUQsxg&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=487415ce1385398 0&biw=1794&bih=778

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Dale Feicke
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I've seen quite a few posts from people using HVLP to spray latex...but you have to do your homework, to get a tip size large enough to do the job.
Joe's probably right, airless may do a better job. It's just more mess and hassle.

Bottom line, I don't know of a real simple,clean solution to spraying latex....and yes, you will have overspray.

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Dale Feicke Grafix
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We are switching to waterbased paint from gloss enamels. We have been using the benjamin moore aura. I have sprayed latex in the past and didn't really like it but this stuff is great I can spray it basically unthinned and it lays down flat. We are just using one of the harbor freight gravity feed hvlp guns I think you can pick them up around $10-15 on sale. Yes there is over spray, if you have not sprayed before you will need to set up some kind of booth with ventilation.

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Wayne Webb
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I spray latex all the time and get nearly glass-smooth finishes, All of this was shot with a cheap Harbor Freight gravity feed HVLP gun.  -

[ February 19, 2013, 11:42 AM: Message edited by: Wayne Webb ]

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Wayne Webb
Webb Signworks
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This is the gun. It comes with a 1.4 mm tip which works great for spraying thinned latex but I also ordered the optional 2.2mm tip which I use for spraying Coastal Enterprises FSC88 water based primer.

http://www.harborfreight.com/high-volume-low-pressure-gravity-feed-spray-gun-66222.html

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Wayne Webb
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Thanks for the info, Wayne. I couldn't remember the tip size for latex, but knew it was over 2.0.

Incidentally, if you're looking for "a little better" than Harbor Freight, try
www.spraygunworld.com

They have a big selection of guns, sets, tips,etc. and are pretty reasonable in pricing on a lot of stuff. Some of those cheap guns don't allow you to change tips, or don't offer big enough tips for latex; so watch out for that.

And thanks Eric, for the tip on Benj-Moore!

[ February 20, 2013, 09:39 AM: Message edited by: Dale Feicke ]

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Dale Feicke Grafix
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Wayne, what pressure do you set the regulator to? Do you set it when the trigger is drawn or idle? Do you thin the paint to a consistency like you would with enamel? Does it go on in a thick coat or a series of mists?

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I have a Fuji turbine type HVLP, with a gravity feed canister that holds about a coffee-cup full of paint. It cost me about $500 & I love it.
I'm not so concerned about the perfectly smooth finish ..... I don't mind it having a little texture since I mostly use it on dimensional signs anyway.

I have better finishes with Wagner Paint Easy than with Floetrol, & it works better as a flow enhancer if you're using a WB quill.

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Rodger MacMunn
T.R. MacMunn & Sons
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I'll second that on the Wagner Paint easy....good stuff.

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Wayne Webb
Webb Signworks
Chipley, FL
850.638.9329
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