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For tips and tricks on making signs.. But now it seems this place turned into a religious pot smoking/defending establishment.. If I ever get into hydroponics I'll be back.. :-/
-------------------- Gonzalo Curiel Peewee Signs & designs Oroville Ca 95965
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why not start with adding a fresh technique of your own on the very next post?
-------------------- Leaper of Tall buildings.. If you find my posts divisive or otherwise snarky please ignore them. If you do not know how then PM me about it and I will demonstrate. Posts: 5273 | From: Im a nowhere man | Registered: Jul 2001
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Sign makers are not necessarily one dimensional...some of us have a variety of interests other than signmaking...sometimes we like to share or comment on them...as long as those discussions are conducted in a manner of mutual respect I personally have no problem...it wouldn't be nearly as much fun for me if OP, Joey, or Bob never showed their true feelings, or Michael Clanton didn't offer his always measured common sense, or David Wright didn't interject with his occassional sarcastic wit...or the always good humored Neil Butler only posted sign pics...as well as others I wont mention right now...their comments may not always be sign related but they often give insight into their humanity or sometimes lack thereof
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hey - long time no visit- I ended up taking your advice on my dad's old R/C airplane stuff and ended up selling all of it to a local R/C guy (thru Craigslist) who gave me a decent price. Thanks again for the help. I always enjoy seeing your videos, too
-------------------- Michael Clanton Clanton Graphics/ Blackberry 19 Studio 1933 Blackberry Conway AR 72034 501-505-6794 clantongraphics@yahoo.com Posts: 1735 | From: Conway Arkansas | Registered: Oct 2001
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I agree with Rusty. What a person puts into a sign and others' reactions to it depend on their whole mental makeup. Same as any other art. Reminds me of a famous thing a big ad agency guy said one time, "We dont sell the steak, we sell the sizzle."
-------------------- dennis kiernan independent artist san francisco, calif, usa Posts: 907 | From: san francisco, ca usa | Registered: Feb 2010
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I really like your striping in your portfolio- do you lay out any kind of pattern or just eyeball it? I have only tried it a couple of times, and my ADD kicked in pretty quick! I know it is a difficult skill to master and it looks like you may it look easy.
-------------------- Michael Clanton Clanton Graphics/ Blackberry 19 Studio 1933 Blackberry Conway AR 72034 501-505-6794 clantongraphics@yahoo.com Posts: 1735 | From: Conway Arkansas | Registered: Oct 2001
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Thanks! I generally just "wing it" I guess one of the hardest parts is when something is off a bit.. Drives me nuts..,we all strive for perfection but getting there is a losing battle..
My website is kinda stupid, to upload pics is a real pain in the but. If you are on Facebook look me up. I spend most of my time there now but it works as I cant tailor it to my liking.. But I along with others post up our latest work on there frequently..
-------------------- Gonzalo Curiel Peewee Signs & designs Oroville Ca 95965
Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. — Charles Mingus Posts: 6712 | From: Mendocino, CA. USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Just a reminder Folks. This site is all about Letterheads. It's been 30 years since my first meet, but I still remember the excitement of learning from my heros.
The host provided the venue and we all chipped in to cover costs associated with meet costs. It was never the job of the host to provide the information. All of us shared what we knew. It's the same deal here.
I realize lots have changed in the last 30 years. Most new shops I visit these days have never heard of Letterheads, SignCraft or any of my heros. It's been 15 years since the public ever seen any brush and/or goldleaf skills.
When this website started back in 1995, our dream was to bring those interested in Letterheads together. The goal was to do all we could with the basic internet skills we had, to recreate a "live" meet online.
From a small beginning with 22 members, most of who I called personally, we grew to 10,000 plus shops. You guys made the site by posting photos, creating step by steps, and hosting live meets associated with Letterville. It was a great place to hangout.
I accept most of the blame. It isn't hard to see that the place is not maintained in the fashion it once was. At 60, I just do not have the energy that 30 year old guy had so many years ago. Sometimes I wonder if the whole Letterhead thing is dead.
Instead of bitching and chewing what Letterville can do for you, I would suggest you take the wheel. Submit a step by step or start a discussion on the challenges of surviving in this crazy business.
-------------------- Steve Shortreed 144 Hill St., E. Fergus, Ontario Canada N1M 1G9 519-787-2673
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This is a sign site? Cripes, I only come here to cruise chicks...
-------------------- Bruce Bowers
DrCAS Custom Lettering and Design Saint Cloud, Minnesota
"Things work out best for the people who make the best of the way things work out." - Art Linkletter Posts: 6451 | From: Saint Cloud, Minnesota | Registered: Jun 1999
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If not for this site, I would have never attended my first meet. At the many meets I have attended since then I have made new friends, and talked to them about signs, and the weather, and cars, and pot, and rc planes/cars, and cameras, and stupid stuff we did in school, and...
The point is, Steve once said he wanted this place to be like a letterhead meet online. At live meets we do talk about signs, but we also talk about a lot of other stuff. When we don't like a conversation we can either stand there and argue our side, or we can walk away and find another topic being discussed.
In my opinion Steve's dream of a live meet online has been, and still is a resounding success.
Again , I say, "Thanks to the Shortreeds for making it possible for me to be here with all of you!"
-------------------- Don Hulsey Strokes by DON signs Utica, KY 270-275-9552 sbdsigns@aol.com
I've always been crazy... but it's kept me from going insane. Posts: 2273 | From: Utica, KY U.S.A. | Registered: Jan 1999
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If not for "Letterville" I would never have met as many great folks at Letterhead/Walldog meets.
I learned that "learning" is an ongoing thing.
For me, personally, meeting one particular person changed my whole approach to creating signs while ALSO making money doing so.
One short afternoon visiting with Bob Stephens changed my whole outlook on what I was doing and what I desired to accomplish!!!
He showed me that even a simple magnetic sign, well done, is saleable for more than $20 and a 4'x8' MDO sign can be saleable for over $1000. He was correct!
Thank you Bob.
-------------------- Dave Grundy retired in Chelem,Yucatan,Mexico/Hensall,Ontario,Canada 1-519-262-3651 Canada 011-52-1-999-102-2923 Mexico cell 1-226-785-8957 Canada/Mexico home
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Bob Stephens understands the marketing value of signs. He is a very knowledgeable sign guy.
A lot of people don't agree with his thought process but just look at how and where he lives. That did not happen by accident.
This site has allowed me to interact with a lot of the coolest people I have ever had the pleasure of meeting along with some very uncool people. I think a 20:1 ratio is pretty good...
Hey, what do I know? I'm just a sign painter.
-------------------- Bruce Bowers
DrCAS Custom Lettering and Design Saint Cloud, Minnesota
"Things work out best for the people who make the best of the way things work out." - Art Linkletter Posts: 6451 | From: Saint Cloud, Minnesota | Registered: Jun 1999
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I am really sorry that my only exposure to the classical letterhead movement was through SignCraft. About 4 years ago I came into it online. Then by a couple of wall events and what could only but laughingly be called mini-meets. That means I drive to someones shop and spend half a day with them or vice versa.
I think we get what we look for on these things. Most of the time it arises to my expectations. It is time for a new generation to step up and get excited about what they are learning as well as the old fogies to encourage them. You go Mr. Shortreed!
-------------------- Bob Sauls Sauls Signs & Designs Tallahassee, Fl
"Today I'll meet nice people and draw for them!" Posts: 765 | From: Tallahassee, Fl | Registered: Jun 2009
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Rusty, with a name like 'RAYmond', I'd have suggested 'shining' or gleaming!
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but it works as I cant tailor it to my liking.. But I along with others post up our latest work on there frequently..
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