-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Strange as it may seem...Here in Mexico, a small amount of pot in your posession (2-3 joints) is legal.
Like Felix, I don't partake...used to years ago, but no longer.
I will be interested to see how the US federal gov't responds to the state laws voted in by real voters.
Should be good fodder for CNN and FOX for a few weeks. They will need something to talk about after a 2 year election campaign!!!
Oh wait...they still have another month to "analize" the election results!!!
-------------------- Dave Grundy retired in Chelem,Yucatan,Mexico/Hensall,Ontario,Canada 1-519-262-3651 Canada 011-52-1-999-102-2923 Mexico cell 1-226-785-8957 Canada/Mexico home
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In California, the Fed moved in and busted hundreds of state-legal medical pot dispensaries, over the protests of the counties.
Why Obama is even wasting resources on this piddly matter is beyond me. Romney wd have been even worse.
-------------------- dennis kiernan independent artist san francisco, calif, usa Posts: 907 | From: san francisco, ca usa | Registered: Feb 2010
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I stopped smoking marijuana after 49 years just a few months ago. I now make it into a butter and use it in my food recipes, it helps with my spinal pain and keeps me from using pharmaceutical drugs which can be additive and possible kill me. The herb helps makes me smile and lasts for hours and even lets me sleep the night through without hurting or waking up. I am a legal card holder and grower here in Oregon. Of course this costs my around 200 per year just for the card which I pay to the state. I wouldn't live anywhere else
-------------------- HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952 'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'
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Casual, Craig? Only two states legalized pot. The rest of the country is very happy carrying on its 50-year-old War On Drugs. It has and is spending billions on a hopeless, useless, wasteful, and crime-producing war that it will never win. Americans cant stand to see themselves as "quitters" and have never learned the art of accepting defeat gracefully. It's all so silly -- the whole world smokes pot and has for thousands of years.
-------------------- dennis kiernan independent artist san francisco, calif, usa Posts: 907 | From: san francisco, ca usa | Registered: Feb 2010
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I'd much rather be around pot heads than alcoholics. Look at all the people alcohol kills every year. Not to mention some of them are down right mean when they are drinking. Never saw a person mean while they were high on pot.
I quit smoking pot about 20 years ago, & I am around both potheads & alcoholics pretty often. Big difference.
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As a general rule society is better when folks are free to do the right thing. In no universe that I can imagine is the use of either benificial to you personally nor socially. It could be argued that a little occaisionally is not harmful. But is it helpful, really? Enough to risk the more wide-spread acceptance of it?
Before any one tells me that you cannot legislate morality think deeper, then tell me of a law which does not codify someone's?
-------------------- Bob Sauls Sauls Signs & Designs Tallahassee, Fl
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It's still against federal law; so you could still get in trouble.
I tried weed years ago, didn't get high, and the smell nearly made me sick.......so I never pursued any drugs further.
Looking back, I'm glad it didn't work out; I probably would've used it further, like I did with alcohol. I was never an alcoholic, but did party down, a good bit. Still have a margurita every now and then.
I guess either drugs or alcohol can be as good, or bad, as you let them become. You can drink a beer occasionally, or move up to the hard stuff; just like you could smoke a joint once in awhile, or move on to crack, or more. Life is all about choices.
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the criminalization of POT WAS A LIE TO START WITH. its a sad commentary on the human condition. this whole war on pot was started NOT BECAUSE IT HAS A DRUG IN IT......it was because it would have reduced the use of COTTON as a fiber crop. dont belive me? google HEMP CLOTHES. the nation was told a lie BY THE GOVT and perpetuated it into what it is today.this is the guy and his reasoning to make it illegal HIS WORDS IN 1934, some people think like this today sad. Harry J. Anslinger, head of then "new"Federal Bureau of Narcotics: “There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others.”
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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-------------------- dennis kiernan independent artist san francisco, calif, usa Posts: 907 | From: san francisco, ca usa | Registered: Feb 2010
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Bob, when you say you cant imagine that the use of either is beneficial personally nor socially, it sounds as tho you've never tried pot. Is that true?
And in any case, do you think that the gvmt spending billions of dollars, filling the prisons, and turning Mexico into a war zone is beneficial? Personally, perhaps?
-------------------- dennis kiernan independent artist san francisco, calif, usa Posts: 907 | From: san francisco, ca usa | Registered: Feb 2010
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Dennis, this may surprise you. I would be in favor of some loosening of the criminalization of weed ONLY. I fail to see how locking up youths and old morons helpful. I am quite sure it is way overkill, however I am in favor of there being a harsh social stigma associated with it.
My only point is this. Would I forever give up some small pleasure in order to lessen the harmful effects that alcohol and weed has on so many victims? In a heartbeat, I would. But I know that there is obviously a demand for it. All my life I have heard it said that prohibition was an abject failure...well that depends upon what your objective was. If it was cutting down on the amount of drinking in America, so folks would behave better than when under the influence? I strongly suspect that consumption went way down. This always happens when something is outlawed and its price goes way up. The awful results that arose from prohibition I do not down-play at all. The savagry and the lengths to which some would descend to get and provide alchol may be our proof of its unsavory nature in itself. I've never heard of a man blowing a pay-check, beating his wife and children due to the results of a glass of warm milk. I am afraid that I have drifted into building up a straw-man in order to knock him down.
Back to pot. Some mercy twards first and second timers, little for sellers, sever penalties for adults who sell to kids. I would suggest a system of increasing fines that may make the ones with any hope left turn around. Again I stress this is for Pot only.
Man this is fun, but not sign related at all.
Dennis, I have had about as many youthful indiscretions as any, I suppose. The specifics of which I shall hold closely to my own vest.
-------------------- Bob Sauls Sauls Signs & Designs Tallahassee, Fl
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When they started allowing private non-goverment stores to sell hard liquor, I did about over 150 trucks from just one company. They are a liquor distributor. If this thing really gets going, just think how many more vehicles (distrubutors) I may be doing. Box trucks with a big Zig-Zag guy on the sides. Bring it on,,,,, I'm so ready!
-------------------- Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl) Tacoma, WA Since 1987 Have Lipstick, will travel. Posts: 3814 | From: Tacoma, WA. U.S.A. | Registered: Dec 1999
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Marijuana is not a drug and never has been a drug. Marijuana is an herb which grows freely same as any herb.
A Drug is something that has been transformed by man from either a plant, a flower or from chemicals. People can be so ridiculously stupid just by their non education.
And Bob, not one person ever overdosed or died from smoking marijuana. Our founding fathers in our country cultivated both marijuana and hemp and it was the likes of persons like DuPont who suppressed its values in our country so it would not hurt his investments in his paper industry while killing our forests.
Alcohol is another waste of life and those who drink it either kill themselves from it or kill others from driving drunk.
Same goes for those who put their lives in the hands of those who spew hatred towards anyone which doesn't agree with their own views while being tax exempt. Take for example our elections, God has spoken you have lost...
-------------------- HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952 'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'
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Bob, you're full of wishful thinking and avoiding facts -- alcohol consumption went up during Prohibition, not down, and a lot of it was deadly home-made stuff. Drug and pot use have gone up since the WOD started. Mexico was a peaceful place in 1960, now Americans are warned against traveling there. And as for your firm idea that pot has no benefits, who are you to speak for everybody? Millions of people disagree with you, obviously.
-------------------- dennis kiernan independent artist san francisco, calif, usa Posts: 907 | From: san francisco, ca usa | Registered: Feb 2010
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The Goddess Seshat, with a pipe and hemp leaves on her headdress.
-------------------- dennis kiernan independent artist san francisco, calif, usa Posts: 907 | From: san francisco, ca usa | Registered: Feb 2010
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I would like to see your statistical substantiation that alcohol consumption went up during prohibition. In any case I said that i suspect that it went down.
Dennis, have you ever thought that those who buy the stuff create the demand and should bear some of the responsibility for what has happened in Mexico? I've seen too much destruction and wasted potential from that stuff. Perhaps I am avoiding some facts, like it is a human problem more so than a chemical one. And if it is a human problem than surely it is a moral one. That is exactly where I started. It would be better for all to not have it at all if it would spare the misery of so many. If you do find out the statistic on the consumption I would be interested in being corrected.
Joey, I do not know nor hang out with any haters. So I'm going to assume that your statement was broad and directed at who knows? If it was at me, Sir, it was misdirected. And at the risk of confusing you. You are closer to correct than you may believe about the elections. The Almighty was not at all surprised by the outcome.
-------------------- Bob Sauls Sauls Signs & Designs Tallahassee, Fl
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dave, you make an assumption about pot without any experience with it. YOU TYPIFY the people who listened to the people back in 1934.....and took their mantra as gospel truth. dave.........LIKE JOEY SAID it an HERB... if you care to delve into all the things it good for, BESIDES having THC as part of its makeup, you might then see something different. besides that i can tell you i havent been high since the mid 80's.......when i had a ery good firend who made trips from sarasota, to jamica...mon)))))))heres another good old smokin tune for us old "pot heads." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvGJvzwKqg0
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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HERE I COME TO THE RESCUE.....GOD, FORGIVE ME, BUT I LOVE CONTROVERSY !!!
What is hemp? Hemp is a variety of cannabis that is grown for the fiber and seeds. The fiber and seeds are incredible valuable and is why hemp is often called a “cash crop”. Hemp is a very hearty plant and grows very quickly in very diverse soil conditions. Cultivation of hemp for industrial purposes has been done by many civilizations for over 12,000 years. Industrial hemp was the desired fiber used to manufacture rope, canvas, paper, and clothing until alternative textiles and synthetics for these purposes were discovered. Although China has been the largest hemp producer over the years, other countries such as Australia and Canada are catching up. It is illegal for anyone to grow hemp in the United States as hemp is illegal under the marijuana prohibition act (see hemp history). Now hemp oils, hemp plastics, hemp building materials and many hemp fiber products can be seen and purchased on the market. Hemp is truly an amazing plant with the potential to help “green up” many industries. Still wondering What is Hemp? or want to learn more?
Hemp leaves Traditionally, hemp fiber has been a very coarse fiber when raw, which made it well suited to rope but less than ideal for clothing designed to be worn against delicate human skin. Advances in breeding of the plants and treatment/processing of the fibers have resulted in a much finer, softer hemp fiber, which is ideal for weaving into hemp clothing, fabrics and rope. Watch the video on Hemp for victory to learn more about the importance of hemp during war times. The “re-”growth of industrial hemp in the United States is heavily regulated, although the neighbouring nation of Canada successfully grows hemp commercially. Since becoming legal to grow again in Canada, the crop has taken off and has become a booming multi-million dollar export. Hemp building materials are another growing segment of the hemp industry. Canada is now a leader in the global hemp food/health marketplace. Canadian hemp products can be found in many hemp markets now in the United States and the world over. In addition to providing useful fibers, hemp seed also has high nutritional value. and the plant can be used to make biodegradable plastics, some fuels, and a variety of other things. Hemp foods including but not limited to hemp energy bars, hemp salad dressing,hemp milk, hemp protein shakes, hemp oil gel caps and hemp protein powder are among some of the health products being produced today. Visit the Hemp University to learn more! Now when someone says “what is hemp?“, you can be the one that knows!
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO, BOB?.... CONVERT THIS BUNCH OF OL' TIMERS?....MAKE US SOUND LIKE WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT WE ARE SAYING?.....THAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN HELL FREEZES OVER.....FOR THE RECORD, DO YOU REALIZE THAT BETWEEN OP, JOEY, DENNIS AND I THERE ARE OVER 290 YEARS OF LIFE EXPERIENCE?.....THEY, NOR I OR ANYBODY ELSE CARES......THIS IS NOTHING BUT THE PERENNIAL OLD STORY: "THE CHOICES WE MAKE, MAKE US WHO WE ARE".....SO, GIVE IT UP BROTHER.....THIS IS A SITE FOR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SIGNS....HOW ABOUT THAT?
....AND THAT IS ALL I AM GOING TO SAY ABOUT THIS....FOR NOW, OF COURSE.
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.........This is always an interesting discussion. i'm 71,…first smoked in texas, after the army, at the age of 26....and have been smoking/eating ever since .......with a years off now and then. ...my awakening years in texas, lead to the summer of love…haight-ashbury called….Berkeley California , telegraph ave ...the sixty ...... and I’ve tried most of them all, except the needle heavy stuff…….and pot just seems so natural with me …... I run, ran a marathon, workout, am health conscious.………………and love what i do….. and I’m good at it.......... and pot should be decriminalized
we as a nation spend too much time and expense on this “war” …..there are other, more reasonable ways to invest this money
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My view is my view and just as valid as anyone else's Ricardo.
For the record i am amused at all of the historical hemp facts that are thrown out by the justifying side of the argument. I am willing to bet that none of those interesting tidbits were on your minds the first time that you toked, nor were they the reason anyone does. You want to get high pure and simple. Then you want everyone to agree that it is OK. Sorry I will not do that. Then we get to the next level which is all about rights, personal choice and freedom. I'll add that these appeals do have some merit if you could keep them in your smoke filled bubble/comfort zone. The fact is No man is an Island to himself and the choices that you make do affect the rest of us. The Confederacy had some high minded, noble sounding arguments as well...states rights, we're not the only ones benefitting from it, Who do you think Y'all are trying to tell us how to do things, etc. I do not have to remind you all that they were wrong for all of the the right reasons. Am I saying that Partaking of the herb is in any way comparable to owning another human?? Of coarse not I am comparing how arguments are framed for effect.
Enjoy your weekend everyone. Hahahahahah
-------------------- Bob Sauls Sauls Signs & Designs Tallahassee, Fl
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And here another coal in the fire. What's worst for our health,,,white refined sugar or marijuana? I don't smoke pot but I sure eats lots and lots of sugar. I bleed maple syrup.
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OP, I base my views on what I have read from medical journals, not from assumptions and not from people on the street. Experience at smoking pot does not make you informed about it, it's ingredients, it's potential hazards, or it's benefits. Scientific research does. And it's a fact that filling your lungs with ANY type of smoke is not healthy. That's all I meant.
Alicia, please please back off on the sugar. Research is showing it's true toxicity and probably a very strong carcinogen.
-------------------- Dave Sherby "Sandman" SherWood Sign & Graphic Design Crystal Falls, MI 49920 906-875-6201 sherwoodsign@sbcglobal.net Posts: 5396 | From: Crystal Falls, MI USA | Registered: Apr 1999
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WELL DAVE........you know, YOU just might be wrong......if you never smoked it you will never know.....you can JUST ASSUME and go by what documents and other people YOU CHOOSE to glen that information from)))))so that takes you right back to 1934 thinking))))
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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This exchange began with you sharing a video of KC and His Sunshine Boys..... It would appear that, because of the twist that was given to your gesture, we forgot to thank you for sharing KC's video.....So,now, I would like to thank you for sharing it......It did remind me of some very good times.......When we did not have so many judgemental people in our lives, thinking that we needed their permission and approval to be able to live and make our own choices, whether they were good or bad....
I do miss those days.....and thanks, again for sharing the video.
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OP, re-read my posts. I have not taken a stand for or against smoking pot. I absolutely couldn't care less what YOU put in your body. All I was saying is that you have preached many times in this forum about healthy lifestyle changes you have made. ANY smoke is harmful to your lungs, whether it's pot, a burning steak, your burning house, or gasoline, it is harmful. The answer? Put it in your brownies. Much healthier.
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Can you use hemp oil to clean your brushes?
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Interesting info, that kinda mirrors the Sisal and Hennequen plants found here in Yucatan.
Hemp is a plant that is related to the one that produces marijuana.
Sisal and Hennequen are plants grown for producing rope and fabrics too, but they are in the Agave family, which are the plants used in the production of Tequila.
We have agave plants growing in the beach front side of our home here, but I don't think I am gonna try distilling tequila, nor starting up a rope factory!!!
Does a Hemp plant mean it is a marijuana producing plant?
Does an Agave or Hennequen plant mean it is a Tequila producing plant?
I'm kinda curious.
-------------------- Dave Grundy retired in Chelem,Yucatan,Mexico/Hensall,Ontario,Canada 1-519-262-3651 Canada 011-52-1-999-102-2923 Mexico cell 1-226-785-8957 Canada/Mexico home
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i'm getting the munchies with all the comments. Here in Cali I did quite a few Medical Marijuana stores. Yeh, then the Feds struck back, last I knew only one is still open that I painted. Always paid cash-usually in ones and fives. Sure fattened up the wallet.
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Bob, you're correct in thinking alcohol use went down during Prohibition. It did, at first, but then it rose again. The main thing, tho, is that it created a big bunch of more serious problems. Instead of holding fast to your simple idea that pot is bad and the thing to do is outlaw it, try reading up a little on the facts. Here are a couple articles to get you going. They're interesting stuff.
Alcohol Prohibition Was a Failure | Mark Thornton | Cato Institute ... www.cato.org/publications/policy.../alcohol-prohibition-was-failure - Cached Jul 17, 1991 ... Although consumption of alcohol fell at the beginning of Prohibition, it subsequently increased. Alcohol became more dangerous to consume; ...
Did Alcohol Use Decrease During Alcohol Prohibition? druglibrary.org/prohibitionresults1.htm - Cached First, use of alcohol decreased significantly during Prohibition. This decrease in turn lead to a marked decrease in the incidence of cirrhosis of the liver. Finally ...
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Hemp seed oil has a reputation as a versatile substance that is beneficial to us due to its Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio and its content of essential fatty acids. Hemp seed oil is 80% essential fatty acid, the highest amount of any other plant. And because hemp seed oil so closely matches our own skin lipids, it is able to penetrate our cells and lubricate the surfaces between them.
Benefit 1. The 3:1 ratio of Omega-6 to Omega-3 fatty acids is important in preventing heart disease and promoting heart health. The same ratio is thought to be helpful in alleviating the symptoms of skin conditions like acne, psoriasis and ezcema. Hemp is the only plant containing Vitamin D, which is necessary for calcium absorption. This is especially helpful to those on a vegan diet.
Benefit 2. People who use hemp seed oil products have reported that after they begin to use hemp seed oil, they have seen smoother, thicker hair, stronger nails and softer skin. In addition, the balance of essential fatty acids in hemp seed oil have benefits for nearly every body cell in helping your body to fight and ward off degenerative diseases including cancer and cardiovascular diseases.
Benefit 3. Hemp seed oil is also a good source of gamma-linolenic acid (GLA) which makes the oil a rival to flax seed oil and Evening Primrose Oil. It is also an excellent alternative to fish oil supplements -- fish have been reported to be contaminated by mercury as well as other toxins. Nursing mothers and pregnant women may wish to use hemp seed oil instead of fish oil, as they reduce their intake of fish but maintain the level of essential fatty acids. Hemp seed oil has been found to be helpful in relieving pre-menstrual tension as well.
Benefit 4. Hemp seed oil products contain a beneficial amount of amino acids, and vitamin E as well. It is a natural antioxidant, and the oil doesn't stick to your skin as many oils have a tendency to do. It is rich in not only Omega-3 and Omega-6, but also Omega-9 -- this will allow hemp seed oil to moisturize your skin and keep it healthy - and it does this without clogging your pores. Potassium and calcium are also found in hemp seed oil products, making it even healthier for your skin.
Benefit 5. Hemp seed oil contains ingredients that gives it unique anti-inflammatory properties that are not often found in other oils. This, added to its antioxidant properties, allows hemp oil to detoxify and clean your skin, as well as evening out your skin tone.
-------------------- HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952 'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'
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