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Kelly Thorson
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I'm sure I've asked and done this before....but I'm getting older and my mind can't find the info.
Can I clear 1-Shot with an automotive clearcoat and if so how long do I have to wait for the 1-Shot to dry. Do I apply a couple of light mist coats followed by a couple of heavier coats?

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Kelly Thorson
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Holdfast, SK
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Dale Feicke
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I've always mixed a little hardener in with the one-shot. Less chance of lifting. And yes, the fogging is a good idea.

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Dale Feicke Grafix
714 East St.
Mendenhall, MS 39114

"I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me."

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hummmmmm. 30 days...THEN APPLY CLEAR.

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joe pribish-A SIGN MINT
2811 longleaf Dr.
pensacola, fl 32526
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BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND

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Michael Boone
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local boat repair shop can clearcoat the next day after I letter.
They apply several really dry coats..let it flash
then a wet coat.
they use Imron

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Michael Boone
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Jane Diaz
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Be VERY careful. I've seen what happens when you do it wrong, too much, too soon, and it's NOT pretty to have to remove it all and start over!

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Jane Diaz
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628 W. Lincoln Ave. Pontiac, Il. 61764
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still 30 days..........is the safe way.

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joe pribish-A SIGN MINT
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Brent Logan
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Yes Kelly, use hardener and One Shot low temp thinner or automotive thinner.

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Brent Logan
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Yes, you can clear coat One Shot with automotive clears....BUT....there are so many factors that can go wrong, why take the chance? Buy some HOK or DuPont lettering urethane and be done with it. You won't have to use the catalyst.Yes they are more expensive than One Shot but like Jane pointed out, a redo is NOT pretty, and will more than pay for the extra cost of the urethanes. [Frown]

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Dale Manor
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I've clear coated over 1-shot (with and without hardener added) a day after painting and had no I'll effects. I use whatever they are selling at NAPA for clear and it works fine.

Two light coats and then gloss it over.

Just don't ask about spray mask!

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Dale Manor

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I have used HOK striping urethane and catalized One Shot for years with virtually no problems. Just let it dry over night, then two light coats followed by a couple medium wet coats. The clear should be sticky to the touch but not stringy when you pull your finger away, before applying another coat.

Even the HOK urethanes can be a problem if the person spraying the clear does not wait long enough before applying the clear or lays it on too heavy too soon.

I had the job from hell.... striped the car in orange and metallic gold HOK .... amateur painter.... cheap materials ( never heard of the brand ) Some areas were fine and others the metallic in the gold mixed into the clear and ran. He repainted those areas... I striped it with hardener in the HOK, and he still managed to screw up some of it....

Lesson learned... don't work with amateur painters !

[ July 06, 2011, 08:08 PM: Message edited by: Jim Moser ]

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Kelly Thorson
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This is for a couple of 8'x 8'highway billboards, There is the back end of a classic car spanning the width as well as a 8-12" border of colour. My problem isn't so much the cost of anything but the availability. Although not absolutely neccessary, it would be nice to have the signs up this weekend as there is a centennial celebration in the town. My clients words were "If you can't get them up it's OK, I know you'll try." I planned on airbrushing the car with Auto Air, I'm not sure I have enough to do the border though. I guess I can always mask off the 1-shot and not clear that portion.

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Kelly Thorson
Kel-T-Grafix
801 Main St.
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Alicia B. Jennings
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This is my method. 1-Shot mixed with a bit of the same hardener that will be used in the clearcoat. This way the clear will reconize it's own hardener and not attack it. And the person who clears it, has got to fog it a bit so the paint can get slightly accquinted to the 1-Shot. Once they make friends, lay it on. WARNING!!! Bright Red or vermillion might bleed a bit. Wave a dead chicken over it and throw some salt over your shoulder. I've had people clear 1-Shot striping/lettering right after I leave their shop. Makes me thank the Lord for His grace that nothing bad really happened.

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Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl)
Tacoma, WA
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Bob Sauls
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Add Maroon to Alicia's list of warning colors.

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Bob Sauls
Sauls Signs & Designs
Tallahassee, Fl

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