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I have never used a pounce wheel before, always just made a pattern, then used Saral paper to transfer it. I can see where it would take less time to use a wheel, tho, just never tried it. I do not have a pounce wheel. Can I use a sewing dart wheel? I know the holes may not be as close together.
I do have some charcoal pounce powder someone gave me a while back. Can I stick this stuff in a sock to pounce it?
Ok, I guess if someone could give me a simple how-to, using only my dart wheel & a sock with some pounce powder, I guess it will help! Lol! Sorry! I do not have time to order anything, the truck comes tonite & will be lettered tomorrow.
If you guys help, I promise I will post a pic of this big project. For me, this is BIG!
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Bobbie I have used one of those wheels for years and found it better for most work. I filed the spikes to suit the work and I always pounce in reverse, that way the little spikes of paper catch the powder nicely. if you are doing multiple jobs using the same pattern then I would sand the spikes of paper using a 180grit paper.
If you are using a sock you might want to double or triple up the layers as you could find too much powder coming out. As a pounce bag I used discarded nylon sockings that my wife has thrown out. layered up a few times they hold the powder well for me.
Works for me.
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Hiya Bobbie, Yes you can, but you're going back to the age of Michelangelo and the Sistine Chapel! Check out your local art supply or click here... http://www.dickblick.com/zz289/11/ They're fairly cheap and easy to use. The only thing I would suggest is sanding the pattern a little after you pounce to open the holes and allow the charcoal to flow through better.
Havin' fun,
Checkers
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Thanks Miles!!! Got some old nylons in my drawer!
Lol! Checkers! That is funny! I have been putting off buying a pounce kit for too long, & now it has come back to bite me in the butt!
I already drew the pattern out with my plotter. I will be using the pattern 2 times, one for each side of the truck.
I always thought for some reason that I would wipe off the charcoal as I painted, therefore I always used my transfer paper. But I use a mahl stick now to keep my arms out of my wet paint. This should work.
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I just gave Ernest my pounce wheel. Time to order another one from N Glantz (or a Letterville Merchant) I usually pounce with my plotter. But if you are trying to pounce a pattern, you want a pounce wheel as the wheel itself has a much tighter turning radius than the sewing kind. Put a piece of cardboard under your pattern, run the wheel over your lines. Then flip over and sand the back. Use a small sock or a circle cut from t-shirt material. Add a cotton ball and some graphite powder or pounce chalk. Fasten with a gumband or masking tape. You'll eventually learn to put just the right amount of powder down. Miles does have a point about the backwards idea. I always plotter-pounce backwards. love....Jill
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Bobbie, when you go to pen plot, whether front or reversed, watch the letterspacing. Some programs---which I will leave un-named---have a bad habit of spacing poorly. Some letters are too close together, and some are spaced far enough apart to throw a dead cat through. "AWA" or "ATA" next to each other are good examples of "too wide."
It isn't always easy to see this when setting up the proggy before making either the letters or the pattern.
FWIW.
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Jill I know what you mean about the radius of the wheel & the points. I will have to get me a pounce wheel. I think my plotter might do it, but I never checked it out!
Bill, my Signlab program does that, messes up with the kerning, depends on what font I am using.
Si, the charcoal I have is Hansee. I guess I know now where to go to get me set up!
WHOAAA! HAPPY BIRTHDAY SI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You can use a regular pounce bag and avoid the mess by placing the pounce bag in a Ziplock bag backwards, in other works with the loose end towards the bottom. Grap the loose end through the bag, fold the bag down over your hand, pounce away. When done, fold the Ziplock back up over the pounce bag and shut it. It's tored away safely for the next time and your hand are mess free. I forget where I picked up that trick on here or in SignCraft but it sure works great
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yeah Bobbie... I have a variety of wheels and only one or two are actual pounce wheels! heh I think the others are sewing thingies. Got the white (talc) and black (charcoal) along with the colored chalks used in chalk lines. in that box! Pounce away!
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. . . and when-- people inquire as to HOW-in-the-WORLD you get all those little holes in that paper, tell them it takes HOURS with a straight pin and now they know why we charge so darn much!!
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My good friend Carlos Manrique Segovia (sign painter for Corona in Cancun Mexico makes all his pounce patterns by laying them out on plastic sheeting with a Sharpie then poking holes in it with a hot nail (one hole at a time) thats how he spends his evenings while you and I are watching t.v. It takes a long time sure...but the patterns are nearly indestructible & waterproof.
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