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so i have another carved gold leaf sign thats going between granite posts...i don't install granite...i tell the customer that its up to them to install the granite posts. i will make the sign...have the brackets made and install the sign. so i was suppose to have my brackets yesterday because the customer had the posts installed...well i finally track down the welder guy from calls since last week to touch base...well he didn't get them done and is too busy this week and going away next week...blahblahblah...great thanks dude...so i call this other guy and drive an hour to meet with him...he wants me to make a template of 2x4s to fit exactly between the posts....ok i go over with my 2x4s and tools to make a template.
question for ya....should i be able to move these posts?? they seem to have a little play...that can't be good right? i know the guy only put them in 2ft because they were only 7ft tall...(and 7"x7") so i'm trying to make this sf template by myself and its a clustafuk...i'm sure i looked like a giant ass...of course the top part is tighter than 20" down...so i'm also thinking a welded H bracket isn't the way to go...i think i like the same type that i had for the alpine sign....where there's 2 pipes coming out of the plates and there's some lee-way..then use hose clamps to secure.
so is 2ft down enough for granite posts??...i didn't think it was...do people ever use cement??? should i tell the customer they need to put these in more securely? i don't want frost to heave them and rip out the hardware from the sign and i get blamed.
thanks!
-------------------- Karyn Bush Simply Not Ordinary, LLC Bartlett, NH 603-383-9955 www.snosigns.com info@snosigns.com Posts: 3516 | From: Bartlett, NH USA | Registered: Jan 2001
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2 feet into the ground? definately no good... check your area for frost levels.. I have seen it here where frost will go 6 feet deep under areas where snow has bee removed under a blanket of snow it still can go 25-30" Id set those posts at least 40" I dont use cement..most people disagree with me but if you ever need to remove a post... you will curse the cement for days... that is...if you know how to curse in the first place....
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They should be 4 feet down in your area. There should be no movement, whether you use concrete as I would, or just compacted soil, they should be solid as a rock (no pun intended). Not only will frost heave them, in the spring when the soil is like muck a good wind will tilt that sign.
but if they don't want it cemented in, the most superior alternate is sand. It compacts so well that you would think it was cemented in...whithout the permanency.
-------------------- Robert Beverly Arlington, Texas Posts: 1023 | From: Arlington, Texas | Registered: Jan 2001
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