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My customer is buying a large chunk of land that has been wanted recently by many groups or individuals. Does anyone have a nice way of saying "No Trespassing"? He understands that many people had "plans" for this land (like a public park, nature preserve etc." and doesn't want to royally tick everybody off by saying "Keep off" but...he wants everybody to keep off.
He plans on cleaning it up a bit, cutting back bushes from fences and taking off old gas tanks and wants to say he is improving it; but he does'nt want to worry people that he is putting in a development or something. Rural Area- along the river, fence surrounding the 80 Acres.
Suggestions?
-------------------- Phil Steffen, 29 Van Rensselaer St City of Saratoga Springs DPW Saratoga Springs NY 12866 Posts: 563 | From: beautiful Saratoga Springs NY | Registered: Aug 2001
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"Gosh folks ...don't come in here if you don't need too"
"My wife would like you to stay out"
"Can't we all get along ...on your side of the fence"
"Stay on your side"
"This place is not for you" Sorry...only two things I can think of that does the job."Keep Out" and No Trespassing" Altho...I suppose you could "nice it up" by adding "Please"!
No wait...how about "I'll stay on mine if you'll sstay on yours".
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no trespassing violaters will be shot survivors will be prosecuted
-------------------- Jimmy Chatham Chatham Signs 468 stark st Commerce, Ga 30529 Posts: 1766 | From: Commerce, GA, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Somehow I knew that I would get 90% jokes and 10% real answers on this one.
(But I still posted, didn't I)
-------------------- Phil Steffen, 29 Van Rensselaer St City of Saratoga Springs DPW Saratoga Springs NY 12866 Posts: 563 | From: beautiful Saratoga Springs NY | Registered: Aug 2001
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Toxic area! For your safety, please stay away. but in actuality
I think 'No Trespassing' is a nice way of saying...Stay the Hell off my Property!
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No Trespassing This Is Private Property! THANKS Have a Nice Day! (then in real small print...STAY THE HECK OUT!) Love....Jill
-------------------- That is like a Mr. Potato Head with all the pieces in the wrong place. -Russ McMullin Posts: 8834 | From: Butler, PA, USA | Registered: Jan 2001
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However, anything shy of flat out "No Trespassing" probably wouldn't cover his butt if someone decided to come onto the property & hurt themselves, especially with all the work going on. I know here someone isn't officially trespassing unless you have NO trespassing signs posted along the entire perimeter. They have to be posted so where you can NOT get onto the property from anywhere without seeing at least 1.
-------------------- Chris Welker Wildfire Signs Indiana, Pa Posts: 4254 | From: Indiana, PA | Registered: Mar 2001
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I like the approach of the 2 Steves. Years ago, a California community got tired of being in a flight path of the local airport. In the common park, they laid out stones to read, in huge letters, "Unsafe Area For Jets." Scared the passengers and worked, I heard.
-------------------- Bruce Williams Lexington KY Posts: 945 | From: Lexington, KY, USA | Registered: Mar 1999
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How about "No Trespassing" in large letters and in smaller letters underneath "Environmental Cleanup in Progress" Which could mean just about anything,(including removing gas tanks and removing dead or overgrown brush) but I wouldn't want to be messing with it, cause it could also mean toxic spills etc.
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Kelly Thorson Kel-T-Grafix 801 Main St. Holdfast, SK S0G 2H0 ktg@sasktel.net Posts: 5496 | From: Penzance, Saskatchewan | Registered: May 2002
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In general, in my opinion based on experience, the nicer you are the more permission you give to violate the request.
"Please do not smoke" was a sign that used to not stop me from lighting up, it only made me watch out for potential enforcers.
In your case, a combination of the stated need, an indication of violation being the trespasser's risk, and a consequence other than a natural one, would be indicated. Then, set apart, (way smaller) there could be a line about coming attractions or improvements or changes.
No guns.
Maybe just a picture of one
-------------------- Myra A. Grozinger Signs Limited Winston-Salem, NC
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-------------------- That is like a Mr. Potato Head with all the pieces in the wrong place. -Russ McMullin Posts: 8834 | From: Butler, PA, USA | Registered: Jan 2001
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Land Remediation Project To prevent further contamination please stay clear
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In Missouri, Legally I think there has to be one every 100 feet. Also, purple paint on trees have the same meaning.
[ During its 1993 legislative session, the Missouri legislature enacted a new statute pertaining to trespassing. The new law, the Purple Paint Statute (RSMO 569.145), provides yet another way for Missouri landowners to protect their property from trespassers. Landowners can still use "No Trespassing" signs, however the Purple Paint Statute allows landowners to mark trees or posts with purple paint as a warning to would-be trespassers. Just like a "No Trespassing" sign or actual communication to individuals that no trespassing is allowed, the purple paint marks are considered to be adequate notice to the public that no trespassing is allowed on the property. All land marked with purple paint in the manner proscribed by the statute is considered to be adequate notice to the public. It fulfills the same function as a "No Trespassing" sign, a fence, or telling someone not to come onto your property.
Under Missouri's law:
Any owner or lessee of real property can post property with the purple paint marks. Purple paint marks must be placed on either trees or posts (the statute does not specifically allow the option of placing paint marks on buildings). Vertical paint lines must be at least 8 inches long (the statute does not mention a maximum length). The bottom edge of each paint mark must be between 3 feet and 5 feet off the ground. Paint marks must be readily visible to any person approaching the property. Purple paint marks cannot be more than 100 ft. apart. ]
-------------------- Ace Graphics & Printing Camdenton, MO. USA
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I would use POSTED NO TRESPASSING or whatever the legal rerquirement for raw land is in new york and nothing else,99% chance you can find that online.....mention clean up or anything else and you can probably guarantee a lawsuit by some enterprising sh*thead who claims he didn't see a sign and was injured in some way by something that was in the process of being moved/cleaned/whatever,a broken part of the fence juked them,who knows as he innocently wandered thru.....who knows....unless he puts a wall up he will not keep people out,and the fact that they are trespassing and on the land illegally will mean absolutely nothing if they are injured on it. You can probably guarantee yourself in a spot in the lawsuit jamboree on that one if it happens for selling him signs that did not meet the city/state guidelines for such a use,since as a signmaker its your job to keep up with relevant laws I also would not use the term 'clean up' or improvement if there are old gas & fuel tanks, or anything else someone who can't mind their own business can clue in on and report to a local,state or federal regulatory agency or any other band of crusading idiots intent on saving the world from itself no matter what the cost can use to turn it into a superfund site over BS.
-------------------- Gavin Chachere Plotter in the garage,New Orleans La.
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quote:Originally posted by Tony McDonald: In Missouri, Legally I think there has to be one every 100 feet. Also, purple paint on trees have the same meaning.
I was wondering why the trees near my dad's property all had purple stripes on 'em!
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Mike Pipes stickerpimp.com Lake Havasu, AZ mike@stickerpimp.com Posts: 8746 | From: Lake Havasu, AZ USA | Registered: Jun 2000
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"Trespassers welcome! Aligator/lion/bear feed is so expensive these days"
Seriously though, Gavin had some good points.
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From the "been there, done that" dept, I'd listen real intently to Gavin. It cost me thousands....still p@$%^&&ed!!!!! (25 yrs. ago)
-------------------- Frank Magoo, Magoo's-Las Vegas; fmagoo@netzero.com "the only easy day was yesterday" Posts: 2365 | From: Las Vegas, Nv. | Registered: Jun 2003
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POSTED,at least here,means that past that point is no longer public domain land and you should stay away.....they're about as effective as throwing horsesh*t at a fan to make a picasso on the wall.
-------------------- Gavin Chachere Plotter in the garage,New Orleans La.
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I stay away from these signs cause Walmart sells them so cheap, and they meet legal requirments. I can't compete with that.
take a ride to walmart on your lunch hour,buy em and mark em up 30% and tell em you had to special order them just for him...easy money
-------------------- Gavin Chachere Plotter in the garage,New Orleans La.
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I also would not use the term 'clean up' or improvement if there are old gas & fuel tanks, or anything else someone who can't mind their own business can clue in on and report to a local,state or federal regulatory agency or any other band of crusading idiots intent on saving the world from itself no matter what the cost can use to turn it into a superfund site over BS.
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