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Dave Grundy
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I've been walking as a form of exercise for the last couple of years. I can't even consider jogging because my knees won't take the pounding...too many years spent skiing, being dumped off snowmobiles, doing body work etc.

I am starting to become bored with the same old routine and am wondering if cycling would be a decent alternative to walking?

My objective is not to lose huge amounts of weight but to just keep huge amounts of weight from accumulating and to keep active.

Any comments on whether cycling is as good as walking, (I know it is better than vegetating, of course), whether it is tough on the knees etc.

Remember, I am an old fart of almost 60!!

Gees, I just had a thought...maybe I should borrow someone's bike and give it a try and find out for myself before I go out and spend $300 on a bike!!!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Anyway, any comments and input would be appreciated.

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Dave, as an old fart of almost 59.... i'd do both, and do...walk and ride. running always seemed like work to me, but I know that runners get in the zone, etc, whatever floats your cork... We've been doing 4-6 mile walks, actually, striding, but not that flouncy kinda power walk..., and when I next ride, notice more strength and endurance. They work well together.

Riding, you can cover SO MUCH MORE TERRITORY,

With all the bread you make in your work, put out the extra bucks and get a well fitted bike, not a costco or london drug honker... Kona is my choice... a 3" travel fork will be happy for your wrists, spend 600-800(not a lot, in the big picture, you COULD put out 2000-3000, but don't need to)
yes, riding, expands your territory, more signs to see in less time!! lol

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Joey Madden
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I'm 60+, I ride an ol' 12 speed touring bike and an original black pinstriped edition Schwinn Cruiser 5 speed which I restored 2 years back. Bicycles are fun and keep me together as much or more as any other smoker. I like cruising downtown and leave the mountain bikes for the yuppies as well as those new fan dangled sofa bikes. [Smile]

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Steve Burke
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Don't forget swimming- It'll be a better overall workout than either biking or walking.

biking is easier on the joints but harder on the rump, unless you buy the right seat. If you cycle a lot and have a firm seat you can go impotent!!

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I was just gonna say the same thing Steve.
Bike seats can be a killer! Especially if you are like me and are very short. I even had my pal cut an inch off the tube that the seat screws onto. Nuthin' doin. Still feels reallllly bad. If I wanna hurt "down there" I want it to be from a FUN reason, not a darn bike seat!

I would stick with walking Dave, or try swimming if possible. I like to walk a mile after dinner with my kids, then build up to 2 miles. At least when you're walking you can't wipe out like when on a bike. Did I mention that I am very clumsy?

Love...Jill
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Cheryl Lucas
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Hi Dave,

Ditto, on having your bike fitted to suit your body frame. When I was ready to purchase a 'real' bike, I visited a local dealer. Much like buying a car, they allowed me to take a spin. I was awestruck at the differences in each of the bikes I tried out. They, should also take the time to explain to you the proper height of seat, extension of the legs and arms, etc. Oh! A good cusioned seat is a must! ha!

I, ended up with a 15 speed, Woodlands Schwinn. It sports big knobby tires, which get me through sand and gravel, etc., when I'm off the road as well as lend a bit more security (I hate wiping out!) when hitting sand and gravel when on the road making turns, etc. It has cusioned hand grips, which turned out to be a real plus. Though, I did invest in a pair of fancy gloves, with gel in the palms for additional comfort.

Cycling, is an excellent means for a cardiovascular work out and easy on the knees. I have bad knees - too many wild games of 'bust ass' at the local skating rink, when I was young and dumb!

At the height of my cycling experience, I purchased a book on the do's and dont's and found it very informative as well as encouraging, for a good work out. Drink plenty of water, or you'll do more harm than good. To keep muscles from aching, DRINK WATER, and do stetches before and after the ride. For a decent work out, take it easy and steady for 10-20 minutes, then 'push it' for cardio, another 10-20 minutes, then easy, steady for a cool down period of another 10-20 minutes. Afterwards, you'll feel like you're walking on air!

Hope this helps...

Cher.

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Ray Rheaume
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Dave,

You're advocating walking or biking?
What about driving? If we all travelled as you suggest, car manufacturers would be laying off employees, gas prices would rise, car prices would go through the roof and.....
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wow, just like 1979. TIME WARP!
JK [Razz]

I really enjoy the swimming. Good overall workout and all you need is water and warmth.
Just haven't got the knees for biking these days.

Be well...
Rapid

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Dave Grundy
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hahahaha Ray...Yeah, I can just picture myself cycling down the road with a 3/4x4x8 project sign strapped to my back!

It WOULD be a workout though, especially in a good head wind! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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my power wheel chair
don't give me much
exercise but i don't
fall down as much. [Wink]

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I hope this is not sacrilegious but I've found a job I enjoy even more than signwriting! From May to September I become an Assistant Lock-Keeper on the River Thames. The only problem is, it involves walking about 16 miles a day and that's hard when you've been vegetating in front of an easel or computer all winter!
This year, I thought I'd try to get a bit of resilience back in my legs, so, yesterday; I went for a bike ride. Got a bit carried away and pedalled hard for an hour or so. I dismounted and slumped to my knees! Someone had stolen my shinbones!
Think I'll take it a bit easier next time.

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Try these bikes


Rat Fink bike

http://www.electrabike.com/04/bikes/streamride/sr_19.html
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Or


Rat Rod

http://www.electrabike.com/04/bikes/streamride/sr_6.html
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Hi Dave:

Caveat: I'm a former road racer ... could be I'm genetically advantaged when it comes to turning over pedals.

That said, cycling rules. Get a road bike. And don't be fooled by large cushie seats. A thinner race saddle has fewer pressure points. Your tailbone will toughen. Also, being in a more aero position will make riding way easier. Larger, high-pressure tires also have much lower rolling resistance. They key is not to suffer on a bike. It's to get into your aerobic range, and keep it there for an hour or hours.

Benefits of cycling:

Low impact and range or motion (easy on the bod)
Can sustain longer period of aerobic exercise
Builds quads and hams ... large (fat-burning) muscle groups
You get to wear dorky/colorful Lycra outfits

Other tips:

Clip-in pedals rule; you'll spin and be more efficient ... and be more secure when doing out-of-saddle climbing

Eat before you're hungry; drink before you're thirsty

Down-side of cycling:

Sleep deprived every July ... the Tour de France is best enjoyed live :-) Go Lance!

Best Regards,
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....Everything that Cher and Jim (and the others too) said is right on. Patronise a real bike shop and they will fill you in further. And DO NOT get a bike from a hardware store, Wall Mart or K mart. Details like frame size, angles and styles will make a HUGE difference to your riding comfort. Different saddles will too. It's like shoes, get the correct fit.

...And, $300 is only going to get you a cheaply made, and heavy bike. You could find a real nice used bike for that much though. Like in the sign business, you get what you pay for... and it's especially true for a bike as well.

Good post dude !!!

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I'm a fan of road bikes too (I also have a long cycling background) but Dave, you might be happier with a touring bike or a hybrid. Tour bikes and hybrids are much like a road bike except they'll have more gears (18 or 21 speeds are common) to make hill climbing easier, they have slightly larger tires which aren't as prone to spontaneous combustion as a road bike tire (when the tire is only 3/4" wide and pumped to 110psi, EVERYTHING on the road is a tire hazard) and the frame geometry is often easier on your back and arms.

When selecting a bike, you should be able to stradle the top bar and with your feet flat on the floor there should be a couple inches from the top of the frame to your inseam.

When adjusting the height of the seat, your legs should be just slightly bent (not completely straight) when the pedal is at the bottom of its path. When the pedal comes to the top of its path this seat position will keep you from having to bend your knee too much which will keep you from developing knee problems.

The handlebars can be raised so you do not have to lean over them as much which reduces back pain *and* pain in your arms, wrists and hands. You want to adjust it so your back is able to *comfortably* support all your body weight while keeping the load OFF your arms, leaving them free for simply controlling the direction of the bike.

Pedals with toestraps will allow you to actually *pull* the pedals up in the upstroke so if you're interested in working out another muscle group, you can. They also help keep your feet on the pedals yet still let you slip out pretty easily when needed.

A recumbent bike is another option. A recumbent has a seat that puts you in a reclining position.
The only people who think they're easy to ride is people who have never tried one. They're TWICE as hard as riding a regular upright bike, especially when it comes to hills, because you simply cannot use your bodyweight to manhandle the pedals. They're expensive though, unless you buy a used one you're looking at $2,000 and up.

Too bad you arent nearby Dave, I've got one of each type of bike! [Smile]

Oh yeah... I'm kinda partial to Cannondale bikes.. nice solid frames, great hill climbers. They have a wide selection of bikes and range from $400 on up to several thousand depending what you're looking for.

You can probably find some pretty good deals on used higher end bikes. I'd go to the bike shops and get fitted, then see what kinda deals on used bikes you can find. The dealers I used to go to when I lived in Missouri had annual "swap meets" and warehouse sales where people could bring their stuff for sale and the dealers would unload inventory for cheap so they would have room for the new models.

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LOL WR,

I am laughing at the thought of someone going to Wal-Mart and actually asking a "do you know..." question...

[ April 22, 2004, 10:45 AM: Message edited by: Steve Burke ]

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Thanks for the replies folks...they have given me several points to consider.

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quote:
You get to wear dorky/colorful Lycra outfits

BWAHAHahahahaha ... benifit for who? hahahahahaa, cough, wheeze, spit, hahahahaha
Dave, don't forget to shave your arms to cut down on wind resistance hahaha
Just fun'n, I know diddley about "real bikes" ... I ride around the neighborhoods most every nice day with my kids ... on a cobbled together 10 speed I built 20+ years ago

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