Just kidding...I knew some of you would come here just because I excluded you.
I came across a long lost color chart the other day and thought I’d share it.
It brought back some old memories...you know...back when lettering paint held up without all the additives or hardeners and what not.
Or back when you had to understand how to mix colors to produce something other than the 20 standard colors that where available.
This chart is from September of 1987...four months after I went into business for myself. I know this doesn’t compare to when the real veterans had to mix the pigment and such. But this takes me back to when I started in this biz.
Ok...back to cutting some adhesive backed pressure sensitive vinyl stickers.
Jeff Posted by Kimberly Zanetti (Member # 2546) on :
Damn! That brings back memories.
Posted by Duncan Wilkie (Member # 132) on :
I remember that!. Not much selection of colors for many, many years. And you didn't have a chance at matching most Pantone colors with it. They covered quite well though and by and large stood the test of time. We still use lots of oneshot, it's still a great product. Thanks for reminding me how lucky we are to have a good selection of colors. Considering all the cut backs on the use of "good" pigments, one shot still is my first choice for general sign work.
Posted by Jillbeans (Member # 1912) on :
I started out in 1985 with a can of Chrome Yellow and a can of Brilliant Blue. ....they make the most hideous green when mixed! Love.....Jill
Posted by Jeff Spradling (Member # 1615) on :
You were hard pressed to beat the rich gold you would get from a drop or two of Purple in some Chrome Yellow...ahhhh...the memories...
Jeff
Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
Take it for what ya want but in the seventies with only that amount of color available from 1-Shot, I was able to carry over 50 actual formulated colors made from some of those. I never bought 104L, 108L, 150L, 156L, 158L and used to make those colors which covered much better, same with today.
Coverage is everything in my line of work and not using thinners has saved me more then once.
Posted by Bill Diaz (Member # 2549) on :
Can't remember back that far! Must be the fumes, don't ya know!
Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
LOL!!!!!!!!
Ever had dreams about finding a secret cashe of that paint hidden somewhere? Wouldn't that be nice?
Posted by Arthur Vanson (Member # 2855) on :
Hope these pictures are of some further interest. I didn't get to hear of One Shot till the '90s. This is the UK equivalent; John T. Keeps colour chart of roughly the same period, but as nothing much changed for about thirty years it would be hard to pinpoint a date.
During the mid fifties I would call in at my Dad's workshop on the way home from school. The following pictures are from a Geo. M. Whiley catalogue I used to pore over when Dad was engaged in the tiresome minutiea of life – like earning a living!
Red sable quill liners, size 7 with 2½" hair: 19/- per dozen. (I think A Pound was about equal to three dollars then so, approx 30 cents).
Complete kit-box 18/6d each (again, about 30cents) I was still using Dad's until 1978 when I finally pensioned it off and had a slightly larger one made for £180.00. I still have the old one, tucked away, deep under the bench. Not that I'm a hoarder!
Posted by Cheryl Lucas (Member # 1656) on :
Last month, I was at the local paint store to pick up a pint of Med Grey, OneShot. The clerk, brought out a can that looked old and dingy. As I stared intently at it, she asked if I wanted another one that wasn't so dusty. I said, no, this one will do... Here's the label:
Any of y'all remember these good 'ol days?
Cher.
Posted by Duncan Wilkie (Member # 132) on :
Rats, I'm out of a's gotta get another sheet. Anyone need some x's. Ya I remember!
Posted by Cheryl Lucas (Member # 1656) on :
Ha, Duncan!
Was this stuff called 'press type'?
Anyway, in the days BC (before computer), we used to lay the sign out by hand, copy it to a transparency, project it onto a wall and trace onto the substrate. Yes, including vinyl! Everything, was hand cut!
I pitched stacks of press type, a few years back...
Cher.
Posted by Kimberly Zanetti (Member # 2546) on :
Cher, Just last month, I finally threw away the last box of it that I had laying around. There's only so much of this stuff you can keep for posterity, you know? LOL
Posted by Curt Stenz (Member # 82) on :
Oh yes, I remember those old charts. But the day that I saw a new Chromactic chart with process blue, that got me real excited.
Posted by Duncan Wilkie (Member # 132) on :
We used three brands...Letraset, Mecanorma and Chartpack. Sheesh, how do I remember this stuff.
Posted by Dave Draper (Member # 102) on :
Ok, here ya go...lots of stuff to see here:
[ January 31, 2005, 09:48 PM: Message edited by: Barb. Shortreed ]
Posted by Stephen Faulkner (Member # 2511) on :
ARTHUR!... may I order 2 of the sign kits filled with the brushes and paints? I know of a secret stash of Sherwin Williams lettering enamel and leaded one shot back in Maine if you would like to make an exchange. Posted by John Lennig (Member # 2455) on :
Dave Dave Dave!!! is that a present day photo??? You've got a pretty good stash there!
Just the other day, I was thinking about a New Post, regarding "Not dying before I used all those new brushes i've been hoarding" This led to thinking that maybe, a pile of brushes in my kit, i'd better "retire" either snap off the head, and use the handle as a stir stick, or give them to a body shop for "touch up", or some of the better ones to my friend Al up in the Boonies.
Anyway, what's your Stash look like, all you Brushers??? I bought a bunch of Brown Quills from a guy off the BB over a year ago, just broke in a few lately, changed my theory re: brown for slick/glass, grey for truck/ply. Those browns are SWEET!
Time for another lard oil shooter!
John
Posted by Cheryl Lucas (Member # 1656) on :
Stephen,
Interesting...
I shop local... Sherwin Williams...
Cher...
Posted by david drane (Member # 507) on :
quote:We used three brands...Letraset, Mecanorma and Chartpack. Sheesh, how do I remember this stuff.
Just last week I came across one of those tools for laying that stuff. It was made by Chartpak and has the spring loaded ball numbered 1 to 4 on one end and the flat plastic blade for burnishing on the other end. I guarantee there wouldn't be too many people here that would have seen one. Posted by Dave Utter (Member # 634) on :
I guess I'll have to go digging. I know I have a box in the grage with about 50 different sheets of chartpack stuff. along with a stack of transparencies about 6" thick, old one shot charts etc. I've always kept them. for what reason? I have no idea. but, I've always kept them..........sheesh, I feel old.
Posted by Arthur Vanson (Member # 2855) on :
Stephen, I have two dozen on back-order from May '55. I'll let you know when they arrive; guess I should have chased them up earlier! Posted by Brian Scargill (Member # 2258) on :
Hi all, Arthur, what a colour chart ..... I loved the Intenso flat colours for glass work ... another paint company bites the dust ! ! my local supplier bought some Keep's stock when they closed down, it's all gone now. I thought Tecaloid had stopped production but a coach painter I met recently said it is still in production ... oh the joys of laying off their extra pale body varnish .. memories ! ! Brian. www.brian-the-brush.com Posted by Arthur Vanson (Member # 2855) on :
Brian, memories indeed – the pungent wiff of Intenso colours cooking on a sunlit pane of glass. An office full of girls high on MIBK fumes! The village Bobby. "Jumpers for goalposts". Sorry, I'm drifting, just thought I'd give the MIBK another try!
Posted by Dave Draper (Member # 102) on :
John,
I bought the whole stash you see in that picture above for $50.00 from the son of a sign painter who died in the 60's. His son had been keeping them all these years, sadly not perfectly preserved.
We have something special in mind to do with this collection, but first we need more information on the original owner...and have come up blank so far. We know his name and that he worked at Marine studios in St. Augustine Florida, and thats all. His son kept his fathers brush kit, but didn't take any photographs or keep any photos of his father (how wierd is that?)
Next trip to Florida, we'll see what we can turn up in St. Augustine. Maybe we can track this guy's history down.
[ February 01, 2005, 08:33 AM: Message edited by: Dave Draper ]
Posted by Deb Fowler (Member # 1039) on :
Memories....of the way we were!....
(btw, Jeff, I noticed the spilled paint drop, now that's worth some money!!!) I wish you could have seen me when I first switched from fine artist's brushes to quills. I had paint dripping down my arms since I couldn't figure out how to palette!
Posted by John Largent (Member # 4606) on :
I used to draw T-Shirt art on Mylar, all the seps were inked out and I used tons of Chartpak, Letraset and sheet after sheet of "Dots" or screens. Finally threw away all of it not two weeks ago, almost a 13 gallon trash bag full. Probably was so dry the letters wouldn't rub of!
Do 90% of it now in the computer. Still Draw most of the Cars or Art, but scan it in and color it in th' box! Same with copy, all done in th' 'puter!
Posted by Bobbie Rochow (Member # 3341) on :
Deb, I almost did not post this, because I am so embarrassed, but me too! I HATED it when someone asked me to make a sign for them, because my letters looked so crummy, then I realized I needed LETTERING brushes to do them!!!! We used lettering brushes in Commercial Art in Vo Tech, but that had been so long ago, & all I had been doing was oil paintings & stuff like that.
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