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Posted by Kissymatina (Member # 2028) on :
 
8:10 this morning, I said bye-bye to the construction crew. Their electrician is to be here tomorrow to set the electric box and they'll have some backfilling to do around the foundation but I don't expect that to happen til spring.
 - Looks like I'll be moving my power tools in after my trip next week and working on wiring, walls and all that fun stuff. Lowe's here I come! (Man, do I wish we had a home depot).  -

[ December 23, 2003, 08:58 AM: Message edited by: Kissymatina ]
 
Posted by KARYN BUSH (Member # 1948) on :
 
you're a lucky woman..look at the space..you go girl! [Wink]
 
Posted by rene st-pierre (Member # 4116) on :
 
hello
good job its realy great
maybe you can paint your sign in the center
of the two windows in roof
bye
 
Posted by Ron Costa (Member # 3366) on :
 
Nice Shop Chris!
Merry Christmas
...............
Ron and Meg
 
Posted by FranCisco Vargas (Member # 145) on :
 
Now that's what I call a Christmas Present! [Applause]
 
Posted by pierre (Member # 1462) on :
 
Geez, Kissy! And here we are both of us married already! [Roll Eyes] Oh, well.... VERY cool shop. I'm impressed.
 
Posted by Jane Diaz (Member # 595) on :
 
NOW you get to have fun! Are there any walls upstairs yet or do you get big wide open space? I'm very excited for you! [Applause] Merry Christmas!
 
Posted by Roy Frisby (Member # 736) on :
 
Congratulations and Merry Christmas. It sure looks
great. I know you will enjoy it. [Applause]
 
Posted by Harris Kohen (Member # 2139) on :
 
Merry Christmas, I'm beyond Jealous!!!!

When do we get to come spill some paint?
 
Posted by Brian Diver (Member # 1552) on :
 
Thank goodness there isn't a drooling gremlin or I'd be using it [Wink] Enjoy the new digs and have a wonderful holiday!
 
Posted by Bob Ficucell (Member # 1460) on :
 
Hi,
Hey were is Indiana , PA?
I used to live in Hanover PA, which is South Central PA, by the Maryland border. Bob
 
Posted by Judy Pate (Member # 237) on :
 
Merry Christmas!Your shop looks great. I know you can't wait to get the inside finished so you can move in. Hey come on down to Albany..we have a Home Depot across the street from Lowe's.
Judy
 
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
 
i used to take care of horses that came from the HANOVER FARMS....over at MEADOWCROFT FARMS.....and wore HANOVER SHOES!!!!!
 
Posted by Jillbeans (Member # 1912) on :
 
Hanover is by Gettysburg, PA, down low and over East. What about Hanover Pretzels, OP?
Chris lives in the upper middle portion of Western PA...sorta/kinda near Johnstown. Indiana, PA is the birthplace of Jimmy Stewart! Have yins all watched "It's a Wonderful Life" yet?
Kissy is sure gonna have one working outta this shop! I second the motion about where to put the sign...looks like just the right spot!
I can't wait to see this place in person. It is only about an hour from me (if Chris is driving!)
Love- JILL
 
Posted by Rick Beisiegel (Member # 3723) on :
 
Chris

Tail lights are a beautiful thing. In this case as well as when inlaws leave. You deserve it! Looking forward to seeing it at a meet someday! [Cool]
 
Posted by Pam Eddy (Member # 1858) on :
 
Kissy,

You will wonder how you ever got along before this shop.

I made a few major mistakes with my building that I hope you can avoid. First, I let the ex husband and contractor make too many decisions that should have been mine alone.

Make sure the lights are set at a height and angle that will suite "your" needs. Mine were put on the ceiling (which is 14') and was great if all you did was letter air shields on semis. The light was great up there. But for anything else, they were too high. My dad and big brother made brackets and put a new set of lights 9' up on the side walls angling them down to hit the sides of trucks, trailers, etc. (high enough to still lean a 4'x8' against the wall, but low enough for good lighting) What a difference. Although now I have conduit all over the place from these new lights.

Also, the heat....I'm still battling with that. Once again, it was cozy warm about 6' from the ceiling, and noisy. Also, not fun to try to gold leaf or spray when that thing kicks on.

I had my little brother build a smaller garage last winter (24'x32' with 10' overhead doors). He put tubes in the floor for heat. I ran out of cash for the project, so it doesn't have electric yet, but it will be carefully planned out this time, where the lights go and what type of heat is hooked up to heat the tubes in the floor. (no windy furnace in that building).

Lighting was my big beef. I finished a trailer, grey, and when I got it outside, the colors looked awful. That was the last straw, so with a weekend's worth of work and money for new lights, we got the new ones set at an angle that works for signpainters.

Have fun and enjoy.

Pam
Pam's Signs
 
Posted by Kissymatina (Member # 2028) on :
 
Thanks everyone. As for the sign on the roof idea, I ain't seen a roof yet that I'm scared of. I'm afeared of that one. [Smile] Gonna do a nice sign for beside the french doors on the other end, which will be my main doors and sign for end of driveway. I'm 1/4 mile off the road, you can't see the shop from the road, so I think the sign at the end is more important.

The upstairs is totally open at this point. Friday or the first week in January, I'm gonna figure out my walls and hopefully have them up before Jill's meet. Bill will be home starting that weekend, so I'd like to prod him for wiring.

Jilly, I'm 53 or 55 miles from you, door to door. You can do that in an hour. [Wink]

Rick, those taillights were beautiful.

Pam, we fought a lot of battles over the shop while it was in preliminary stage. Those that I lost initially, I won when I re-approached it with my explanation as to "why". If that didn't work, I just told him "build whatever you want, I don't need a f*(^ing shop. Don't even bother putting a 2nd story on it." [Smile]

Bill will be doing all the wiring, with me there telling him EXACTLY where I want outlets, switches & light. I've figured it he has a fit over what I want, I'll wait til he goes back to work & call my electrician friend. [Wink]

We discussed the heat issue today. With the shop being upstairs, the heating ducts will be at the floor. Still some issues to work out there.
 
Posted by Ken Henry (Member # 598) on :
 
Very Impressive shop Kissy! Looks like you'll have some real fun working outta that space. I'm going to send you an e-mail with a cracker-jack electrical crew to help you get that place wired.. [Smile]
 
Posted by Roy Frisby (Member # 736) on :
 
When you do the wiring, put receptacles wherever
you think they should be...then put one or two
in between those! That was my only regret when
building the addition on to my shop, not enough
outlets. Have fun and enjoy! HAPPY HOLIDAYS
 
Posted by Michael Berry (Member # 2604) on :
 
Chris,

You can have Home Depot [Mad] we are waiting for a Lowe's around here. Home Depot just plain su**s!! Service is terrible, help, well, that's not there, that is if you want somebody with an ounce of brains! I support my local home centers! You can get a straight 2 by 4 in 10 seconds compared to having to dig thru a whole stack @ Home Depot and not finding one straight enough to do anything with.
 
Posted by Kissymatina (Member # 2028) on :
 
Michael, for lumber, I prefer the local lumber yards too. Our good lumber place has very short winter hours, so a few years ago when I had to order some Z-brick, I ordered from Lowe's. Not only did I waste 45 minutes standing there while they tried to find it after it came in, 1/2 were already broke when I got them home. Took them an hour to find the huge window we ordered. It was 6' wide, not an easy thing to misplace.

Service isn't a word Lowe's understands either. Nor do they require employees to know how to read a tape measure. I had some glass cut there for a project, they took over 1/8" off each edge.

When our Lowes has 1/2" drywall, it means that at least 1 edge is 1/2" thick but not all 4. When it first opened, it wasn't too bad but it's really turned to ****. 3M sandpaper was replaced with some sort of Gator **** brand that just touching it will wear a hole in it. Their foam brushes disintegrate as soon as they hit the paint or varnish.

Everytime I have to go to one of the areas that has a Home Depot, I stock up on real 3M tape, real 3M sanding paper, the good Minwax varnishes, dremel bits Lowe's has never carried and small-face safety glasses. Then I look around for whatever else I could use that Lowe's will never have.
 
Posted by Michael Berry (Member # 2604) on :
 
gee...maybe we don't have it so bad afterall....
 
Posted by Pam Eddy (Member # 1858) on :
 
Kissy,

Some more unsolicited advice about electric. As I am looking to buy another computer, it reminds me. Make sure you have enough receptacles in your office in easily accessible places. And if the electrician knows of any surge surpressing obtions that can be connected to the office area would be great. Something as well as the usual UPS or surge suppressors we normally use for power spikes and power outages. My office is short on outlets and it seems we "plug-in" a lot of equipment along with out computers.

The tall building here, as well as the transformer on the hill seems to encourage lightning strikes in every storm. Probably should have paid more to have the pole/transformer set 300' further east where it wouldn't have been on the highest part of the property, but who thinks of that with so many other decisions to be made.

Have a personal note to email you, just as another idea.

Pam
 
Posted by Monte Jumper (Member # 1106) on :
 
What a wonderful Christmas present [Smile]

You're gonna love it...One suggestion...if you haven't already installed the heating (a/c) be sure to mount it in the highest place you can...we installed ours atop the 10 foot cieling over the restroom...the filter doesn't need changing near as much as the old shop...all the saw dust and "sign dirt" (overspray and such) settles before it reaches the filter system and the ducted heat works perfectly...talk to your heat and air guy he'll know the best place.

If you can put it upstairs (where it will always be clean) and duct the heat down!
 
Posted by Kissymatina (Member # 2028) on :
 
As for the wiring, I grew up in an old farmhouse. I had 1 outlet in my bedroom. There will be outlets everywhere! Every outlet will have a surge protector (replaced regularly) and the phone lines will be on protectors too.
Bought the furnace this morning. It was decided it was going downstairs, in my bay (middle one) and ducted upstairs. My bay will be primarily for installs and will probably be the cleanest place for it, no sawdust floating around, no overspray. I also plan to put filters on the vents, mostly to keep dust from going into the ductwork while I'm cutting or sanding then flying back out while I'm painting.
Thanks for all the advice, comments & emails. It's given me some things to think about and reminded me of some things I forgot about.
 


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