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Have you heard this story about a mural that is considered to be a sign,,, Donut Shop Mural I thick the city planners must be really bored at their job to go after this guy.
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I think there was a higher court decision about this years back. If the mural promotes what is sold by the store it's painted upon, it's a sign. A mural with a donut on the side wall of an auto parts store is a mural, and on the side of a bakery becomes a sign.
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Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. Charles Mingus Posts: 7023 | From: Mendocino, CA. USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Kinda like the days of yore, when the item sold or service at an establishment was painted on sign so that the illiterate could know what type of business it was.
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I really enjoy icon signs. I pulled out one yesterday that is a big simply carved redwood boot about three feet tall. This hung for many decades over the entrance to our local cobbler.
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Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. Charles Mingus Posts: 7023 | From: Mendocino, CA. USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Many years ago, when I was in art school, and Moby Dick was a minnow, I recall being taught means of expression, and the origins of the alphabet we use.
1. Pictographic: Related to communication being attempted via drawings. Examples of this are "cave drawings", rock pictographs, and petrogliphs carved into stone, and Egyptian hieroglyphs.
2. Ideographic: This communication happens when a graphic character is used to illustrate or convey an idea. Oriental Calligraphy is the most common example of this
3. Phonographic: This is the type of alphabet we are most familiar with. Each character or specific combinations of characters represent a sound the human voice is capable of making. We associate the letters with the sounds we wish to convey. There are a variety of alphabets, Cyrillic, Hebrew, Celtic, are just a few, but there are others.
That was then, but communication has also evolved, and information is now conveyed electronically using bar codes and those squares composed of a series of black & white patterns, designed to be scanned by reading devices like cellphones. Electronic "chips" can also be surgically implanted to identify both animals and humans.
I watched a TV show recently, where the job of high climbers was documented. One segment showed these guys tasked with replacing safety strobe lights on a communications tower. As part of their gear, each climber had to wear a monitoring device that could signal certain "hot spots" on that tower. These danger zones were created by the electronic signals being relayed & received. Apparently, being in a hot spot too long could result in burns, like one might experience in a microwave.
We all experience those same signals....just in smaller doses, but it does make one curious as to the cumulous amount we get daily. Every video, photo, text, or phone message initiates a signal. Add to that, those signals beamed back to earth by all the communication satelites. We're all probably being cooked, but like that frog in water that ever so gradually gets warmer, we just don't realize what's happening.
-------------------- Ken Henry Henry & Henry Signs London, Ontario Canada (519) 439-1881 e-mail: kjmlhenry@rogers.com
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Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. Charles Mingus Posts: 7023 | From: Mendocino, CA. USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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I served on City Council for 19 years to try and keep restrictive ordinances from getting a foothold. If you are a hammer everything starts to look like a nail. Cartersville Ga has a beautiful historic downtown and The Mellow Mushroom, an Atlanta institution, opened in an old building. Had a wonderful paisley pattern mural painted over the face and part of the side of the building. Some historic (hysterical) folks got their panties in a wad and made so much trouble the city made them paint over it. It is now battleship grey. If you want things to look the way you think they should then buy the property! I really have no patience with the kind of people that move into an area and try to make it their own personal HOA. They will have our police chief out measuring grass blades for violations before you know it. Rant over.
-------------------- John Byrd Ball Ground, Georgia 770-735-6874 http://johnbyrddesign.com so happy I gotta sit on both my hands to keep from wavin' at everybody! Posts: 745 | From: Ball Ground, Georgia, USA | Registered: May 1999
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One wonders. I had a meeting in a small local town in the valley yesterday. Outside the meeting place a major valley sign company was installing two 20 foot signs and making thee electrical connections to light em up. The restaurant owner , part of my meeting) received a phone call from the city about the lack of a permit for using the crane the company had brought with them. I saw cones out, careful parking of the unit and at least eight guys keeping things safe as they picked up the units and welded the mounts up. So I wondered...why would a permit be needed to use the crane to hang the sign when the sign is already issued a permit? Do the city guys think it flies up on it's own? The company was very professional about it all and got the job done. Me? I'm just doing a little mural inside.
-------------------- Gerald Barlow Artworx Turlock, CA
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Ger, perhaps the crane was parked on a public right of way which would then require an encroachment permit? That is standard practice in many places.
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