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I'm writing a simplified piano music theory book for myself, my grand kids, and the only piano student I have.
I'm using CorelDraw to set up the pages using clip art to make if fun and interesting.
But I got stuck trying to tag a name of a group of chords, or the name of what happens when you do this thing to a chord.
I've looked in Music Theory books and websites and can't find an answer.
I have a question on Ibreathemusic . com in the music theory forum, and not getting anything.
He is what I asked:
The group of chords called "natural chords" are: I - ii - iii - IV - V - vi - and vii diminished. But what term would you use to describe the group of chords if they were "flipped" as in i - II - III - iv - v - VI and VII ?
( the major chords are now minor and the minor chords are now major chords.) I was calling them "altered chords", but I have a feeling that is the wrong term.
I'm writing my own piano music theory book, mainly for the benefit of my students and grand children. I illustrate how the "natural" chords (triads) are played on the piano in the Key of C. Then I show how each one of these "natural" chords can be "altered" 5 more ways: C minor, C diminished, C augmented, C suspended 2nd and C suspended 4th. Technically I'm telling / showing how to modulate the "mediant" and "dominant" fingered positions to get the chord tone.
So, I was trying to tag a name on these chords or this group of chords to distinguish them from "natural" chords. Maybe there isn't a name for this.
Thanks in advance! ------------------------------ So, that is the question. Do you letterhead musicians have an idea how to name what I am trying to teach?
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You referred to them as "altered". What's the matter with that? PS I know diddley about music theory.
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You referred to them as "altered". What's the matter with that? PS I know diddley about music theory.
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When I went to make the above comment, I got a new page saying "Sorry, we can not process your request. The board administrator has enabled flood protection for this function. You must wait at least 30 seconds before trying this request again."
What the heck is that?
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OMG watching this video makes me want to throw a rock at my computer screen!
So, I can't use "altered chords" for my description of the opposite if "Natural Chords"
Modulation is a term used to take a tone down 1/2 step, C-E-G to C-Eflat-G, but the term modulation also seems to refer to starting out a song in the Key of C and ending up in the Key of F; a systematic way of chord progressions to end up in a different key signature.
I think I'm pretty open to invent a new name for something in Music Theory that no one has ever thought about:
The name for changing the Natural Chords from Majors to minors and vice-versa is: (wait for it.......):
FLIPERDEDIGITIZING (copy right 2018 all rights resevered, no animal or musicians were harmed in the creation of this thread)
--------------------------------------------- So, should we get the band back together? lol
JUst say: HI DAVE!
[ April 06, 2018, 12:26 PM: Message edited by: Dave Draper ]
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Update: After watching several long boring videos about altered chords and what they are and how to make them, I found the best term to describe what I was trying to teach in my book.
Its called a "borrowed" chord So there are 7 "natural chords" (3 major chords, 3 minor chords, and 1 diminished. When you change the Major chords to minor chords and the minor chords to Major, you are said to be "borrowing" chords from another scale (diatonic scale for technically)
What is funny about this was what one guy said:
"what you call stuff in music theory depends on which DEAD GUY'S book you read!" RMAOL
And if you want to know what "altered chords" are without watching ten 30 minute videos, here is the 10 second easy explanation:
Altered chords are two different chords played at the same time. On the Piano, play a C Major 7th chord with the left hand, and play an E minor chord with the right hand. (which, by the way, sounds very pretty and sometimes called the "love chord" of course, depending on which dead guys book you read!
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My favorite college class was a harmony course in which we studied Bach's chorales and learned the rules of 4 part harmony, which were distilled from the study of Bach's works.
My piano virtuosity ends at "Yankee Doodle"... but I can play "Chopsticks" on guitar.
To my understanding, C Major 7th chord consists of the notes CEGB and Em is EGB, so Em is incorporated into C Major 7. However, the order and quantity of the notes and the octave each one is played in do affect the mood and feel of the chord, according to this not-quite-dead guy's unwritten book!
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