Letterville Bull Board Letterville | Bull Board
 


 

Front Page
A Letterhead History
About Us
Become A Resident
Edit Your Database Info
Find A Letterhead

Letterville Merchants
Resident Downloads
Letterville BookShop
Future Live Meets
Past Meets
Step-By-Steps
Past Panel Swaps
Past SOTM
Letterhead Profiles
Business Cards
Become A Merchant

Click on the button
below to chat with other
Letterville users.

http://www.letterville.com/ubb/chaticon.gif

Steve & Barb Shortreed
144 Hill St., E.
Fergus, ON, Canada
N1M 1G9

Phone: 519-787-2892
Fax: 519-787-2673
Email: barb@letterville.com

Copyright ©1995-2008
The Letterhead Website

 

 

The Letterville BullBoard Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply
my profile login | search | faq | calendar | im | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» The Letterville BullBoard » Letterhead/Pinstriper Talk » price check, aisle four!

 - UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: price check, aisle four!
Suelynn Sedor
Visitor
Member # 442

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Suelynn Sedor   Email Suelynn Sedor   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Okay, here's a "what would you charge".

45'X approx 9' high corrogated semi trailer. Customer will have it parked inside and scaffolding set up. Black painted lettering on a white background. One side only. (This will be parked in a ditch for advertising) Three large words, three smaller words and two phone numbers.

Since I haven't done one before, I'm not sure how long it should take me. I'm thinking 4 hours to make a pounce pattern, and two people painting at 8 hours. Am I out to lunch here?

Suelynn

--------------------
"It is never too late to be what you might have been."
-George Eliot

Suelynn Sedor
Sedor Signs
Carnduff, SK Canada

Posts: 2863 | From: Carnduff, SK Canada | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Jillbeans
Resident


Member # 1912

Icon 12 posted      Profile for Jillbeans   Author's Homepage   Email Jillbeans   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hi Suelynn.
I'm thinking about $1800....?
Last year I did a 20' box truck 2 sides and back for that. In retrospect, I should have charged more. It was in 2 colors.
And why not just project the durn thing?
Corrugated is a pain to paint.
So bid accordingly.
Love...Jill

--------------------
That is like a Mr. Potato Head with all the pieces in the wrong place.
-Russ McMullin

Posts: 8834 | From: Butler, PA, USA | Registered: Jan 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Mike Languein
Visitor
Member # 319

Icon 14 posted      Profile for Mike Languein         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
$2500.
Posts: 1859 | From: / | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
W. R. Pickett
Visitor
Member # 3842

Icon 1 posted      Profile for W. R. Pickett   Email W. R. Pickett   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
...Sounds like a "casual" project...maybe for a "casual" customer too?
Does neatness count, or will thy be OK if you just "knock it out" ?

...if so, I'd make a handy size drawing, and lay the copy out w. charcoal.. Then tape some, and roll the lettering w. small rollers. Touch up w. a brush - of course.

Have fun. I'd try to get no less than $1500.

--------------------
WR Pickett
Richmond, Va.

Posts: 1955 | From: Richmond, Va. | Registered: Apr 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Checkers
Resident


Member # 63

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Checkers   Author's Homepage   Email Checkers   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hiya Suelynn,
A pounce pattern won't work very well. I would try to project it or follow WR's suggestion.
Either way, I wouldn't touch it for less than $2000. If there's a lot of prep required, or the space/set up is less than desirable, I would charge a lot more.
An upsell would be to suggest a digital print mounted to a frame right on the trailer. Something along the lines of Road Shows or whatever's available locally.
If you know the trailer won't be moving at all, you can rope or screw a big banner right to it occasionally update it as required.

Havin' fun,

Checkers

--------------------
a.k.a. Brian Born
www.CheckersCustom.com
Harrisburg, Pa
Work Smart, Play Hard

Posts: 3775 | From: Harrisburg, Pa. U.S.A. | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Sheila Ferrell
Resident


Member # 3741

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Sheila Ferrell   Email Sheila Ferrell       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Yep, that classifies as a "billboard".

I was wonderin' . . . do you have to prep and paint the white (background)?

Or just the letterin' only??

lettering only $1,500 - $1,900 depending on the type corrugation . . . .could you mask-n-spray????

Prep, prime and paint white $2,950 (Automotive finish)

[ April 07, 2004, 03:43 PM: Message edited by: Sheila Ferrell ]

--------------------
Signs
Sweet Home Alabama


oneshot on chat


"Look like a girl, act like a lady, think like a man, work like a dog"

Posts: 5758 | From: "Sweet Home" Alabama | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Suelynn Sedor
Visitor
Member # 442

Icon 14 posted      Profile for Suelynn Sedor   Email Suelynn Sedor   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
We will be painting this in a truck bay, so a projector just won't work. I guess I could snap a
bunch of chalklines and sketch it out from a grid drawing. I have a feeling this guy is going to faint when I give him a price, and I won't have to worry about it!!

I also have a feeling this could be a bigger PITA than I originally thought too. He only called a couple of days ago and I explained that I was swamped and moving this weekend. He said "thats fine, I can't move the trailer until the ground firms up anyway" He phones back yesterday and says, "Okay, trailers ready. When are you coming" and sounded perturbed that it wouldn't be THIS weekend.

Suelynn [Roll Eyes]

--------------------
"It is never too late to be what you might have been."
-George Eliot

Suelynn Sedor
Sedor Signs
Carnduff, SK Canada

Posts: 2863 | From: Carnduff, SK Canada | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Tony McDonald
Resident


Member # 1158

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Tony McDonald   Email Tony McDonald   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Can you project it outside, charcoal around the letters, then bring it in to paint??

--------------------
Ace Graphics & Printing
Camdenton, MO. USA

acegraphics1@sbcglobal.net

Posts: 1196 | From: Camdenton, MO. USA | Registered: Oct 1999  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
faye adele welsh
Visitor
Member # 4164

Icon 16 posted      Profile for faye adele welsh   Email faye adele welsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
suelynn, don't decide anything when you are in the midst of moving...trust me,i know!! it is catastropic!!!i have my 0/2 turned up as high as it can go,still frazzled.....lol [Confused]

--------------------
faye welsh
jill's customs signs
813 pittsburgh rd.
fiddles@lycos.com

Posts: 165 | From: allison park,15101 | Registered: Sep 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Sheila Ferrell
Resident


Member # 3741

Icon 5 posted      Profile for Sheila Ferrell   Email Sheila Ferrell       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
. . . . just kin'da considered that you MIGHT give him a price to screw white aluminum panels to the entire side and slap vinyl on it . . . . [Dunno] ?!

--------------------
Signs
Sweet Home Alabama


oneshot on chat


"Look like a girl, act like a lady, think like a man, work like a dog"

Posts: 5758 | From: "Sweet Home" Alabama | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Mike Languein
Visitor
Member # 319

Icon 12 posted      Profile for Mike Languein         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Whoa, Sheila - quit thinkin' so much thinkin' so much thinkin' so much . . . [Eek!] [Eek!] [Eek!]
Posts: 1859 | From: / | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
KARYN BUSH
Resident


Member # 1948

Icon 1 posted      Profile for KARYN BUSH   Author's Homepage   Email KARYN BUSH   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
me??? i'd run...run fast...it sounds like a nightmare waitin to happen...but follow your gut...moving is huge...to do that job(the word corregated...not fun)would suck unless it was like a 5k job....then i could feel the fun. [Wink]

--------------------
Karyn Bush
Simply Not Ordinary, LLC
Bartlett, NH
603-383-9955
www.snosigns.com
info@snosigns.com

Posts: 3516 | From: Bartlett, NH USA | Registered: Jan 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
George Perkins
Resident


Member # 156

Icon 1 posted      Profile for George Perkins   Author's Homepage   Email George Perkins   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
These can be an absolute nightmare IF you let them. Handlettering this would take forever. The best way to do one , providing it's inside is to mask off the border of the area to be lettered with 1 inch masking tape, roll on a coat of Spraylat Strippable Sign Mask, work on the pattern while the mask dries, roll on another coat and finish the pattern 2 1/2 to 3 hours at the most, pounce the pattern 1/4 hour max, cut and peel the letters with an x acto, 1 hour, roll or brush the letters 1 hour, peel the mask 1/2 hour. Six hours at the most. I'd be happy with $800 to $1000.
I used to work at a commercial shop that did Old Spice trailers that were corregated, the mask made easy work of script over corregation.

--------------------
George Perkins
Millington,TN.
goatwell@bigriver.net

"I started out with nothing and still have most of it left"

www.perkinsartworks.com

Posts: 4322 | From: Millington, TN. USA | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Murray MacDonald
Visitor
Member # 3558

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Murray MacDonald   Email Murray MacDonald   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hey SueLynn...I like Sheila's idea. Do it on Dibond, screw it on the trailer, 3 grand.

MUR

--------------------
Murray MacDonald
OldTime Signs
529 Third Ave S
Kenora, ON.
P9N 1Y3
oldtimesigns@gokenora.com

Posts: 781 | From: Kenora, ON | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Suelynn Sedor
Visitor
Member # 442

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Suelynn Sedor   Email Suelynn Sedor   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I love the idea of the diabond, but you guys must have customers like this! He got a deal on the trailer so that he wouldn't have to buy a sign!! Therefore, the lettering should be almost free! I faxed him an estimate this morning that I'm sure he'll choke on, so it should free up some time for me!!

Suelynn

--------------------
"It is never too late to be what you might have been."
-George Eliot

Suelynn Sedor
Sedor Signs
Carnduff, SK Canada

Posts: 2863 | From: Carnduff, SK Canada | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Sheila Ferrell
Resident


Member # 3741

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Sheila Ferrell   Email Sheila Ferrell       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Sue, I admit I know very little about "di-bond".

Figger up what 11 sheets of 4x10x.o40 aluminum would cost. Figger the vinyl letters. Figger about 5lbs of sheet metal screws. Mark everything up 100% and add $300 for that shopping spree ya wanna go on.

Then give him the price and if he still chokes let him die choking.

PS: Consider that if you did it this way you might could put apply all the vinyl in-shop and let HIM install 'em. [Wink]

--------------------
Signs
Sweet Home Alabama


oneshot on chat


"Look like a girl, act like a lady, think like a man, work like a dog"

Posts: 5758 | From: "Sweet Home" Alabama | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Mark K. Roberts
Visitor
Member # 2239

Icon 16 posted      Profile for Mark K. Roberts   Author's Homepage   Email Mark K. Roberts       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hello Sue:

From everything you have written, I would run from this customer. "Got the trailer cheap", well why not offer him intermediate vinyl on coroplast sheets, screwed to the trailer with #14 Tek screws and fender washers. Tell him $2000 per side. It is never about what the materials cost, it is always about the "advertising value" that the customer is paying for. Working on a project that you are not enthused about is "owning a job" and not advancing your talents. Think twice, no three times before accepting this job, and get a deposit, with a credit card number backup for the balance. You gotta cover yourself! [Dunno]

--------------------
Mark K. Roberts
The InterSign Group
Mark Roberts Instructional Productions
9700 Almeda Genoa Road
Houston, TX. 77075

Posts: 8 | From: Houston, TX. U.S.A. | Registered: Aug 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Ray Rheaume
Resident


Member # 3794

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Ray Rheaume   Email Ray Rheaume   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Suelynn,

I like the idea of drawing it out in a grid and painting, but corrugated is a PITA.
Once you finish the layout, think big and fast. Foam brushes for the edges of the large lettering, rivits and seams - rollers wherever you can.
Take into consideration that it's going into a ditch. Don't fuss the small stuff...a run on a rivit is not gonna matter from 90 ft away.

Rapid

--------------------
Ray Rheaume
Rapidfire Design
543 Brushwood Road
North Haverhill, NH 03774
rapidfiredesign@hotmail.com
603-787-6803

I like my paint shaken, not stirred.

Posts: 5648 | From: North Haverhill, New Hampshire | Registered: Apr 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
   

Quick Reply
Message:

HTML is not enabled.
UBB Code™ is enabled.

Instant Graemlins
   


Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | Letterville. A Community Of Letterheads & Pinheads!

Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classic™ 6.7.2

Search For Sign Supplies
Category:
 

                  

Letterhead Suppliers Around the World