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John Deaton
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I have been working on a piece of artwork that I want to have made into a print. Its cartoony of nature of course, and will be 11" by 17".
I know of another cartoonist who has his done on color laser printers and they are very professional and on heavy stock. Is this the way to go, or not?
I have no experience in this sort of thing, so thats why Im asking. Any help or information is
truly appreciated. [Smile] [Thanks]

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FranCisco Vargas
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I would say to finish your piece, and find someone in your area who has an Epson 9600 or 10000 printer. The main factor in this is have the best scan or photo taken of your art work, save on a CD and you can make your own "limited edition"
They also have an inkjet coated paper by Arches which is made your type of art work. Reason I say someone in your area is because you need to have your original next to the print thats being made, some adjustments might be needed.

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John Deaton
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Thanks Cisco.
Bump.
Anyone else?

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The Moon
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The fade time on all these inks and toners are different.

I suggest calling the local print shop and asking them how they reproduce color IN HOUSE (very important) and when they say (For example) "DocuColor 12 by Xerox" ....

THEN... going to the websites of each printer you are comparing (ie: Epson.com, and Xerox.com/DC12) and look up the fade time on all medias.

Note: On the DocuColor 12... if you print your art on Gloss or High Gloss paper the image will print/appear darker and bolder. IF you want a watercolor or marker pen look to the art then print on Matte or Vellum Bristol. If you print on actual watercolor paper your image will not print in the valleys of the paper and will print dark and/or crackled on the surface contacts it does make. (Which will be WHY the local printer may not LET you print on this stuff... smirk)

In the fine art industry I have learned that a true quality copy of original art AND what is needed to make "real prints" from... you need a Glicee (or CleeSh-A... hey! I wasn't paying THAT close attention. I didn't need the info at the times it was said around me at the shop! LOL ..as opposed to NOW. [Roll Eyes] ) But those cost a whole fricken BUNCH!!!!

...yeah, I'd go with a Local Print shop with a DocuColor 12. And IF you get crudy prints... send the originals to me (insured and bonded and all that crap) and I will copy them right after a drum change on one of my DC12's I GET to PLAY with here in P-ville. A fresh Drum ALWAYS gives really nice sharp prints no matter WHAT moron they have working the "Kinko's Counter", but the "chances" of timing it at the Local Outfit just right is that of Me winning the CA Lotto... prett-Ty SLIM.

The Feeling pretty storng about this topic for some reason side of The Moon.

[Wink] Sarcasticly!!!! (for again, the slow ones in the back! ...and Gavin don't harass me about this! We've had this discussion before. >raised eyebrows< You're NOT the ONLY one back there! LOL -eh-hem, sorry. . . Bah ha ha ha ha ha ha -ok, serious now- sorry. -wink)

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Terry Baird
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If you market this through a legit gallery or rep., they will require you to destroy the original. Keeping even a computer file can constitute fraud. "Limited editions" afterall must have a predesignated end to the run. The smaller the edition, the larger the price. The gallery that I represented in college actually sued a photographer once, because he refused to destroy a neg. after signing a contract.

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Bob Burns
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John,
I can print what you want on My ROLAND FJ-8 color printer. It's MADE for this kinda stuff. Durable accurate-color prints on semi-gloss poster paper is what I would do.

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FranCisco Vargas
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John, I would never sign a contract to destroy my original.

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Hey John,
Check out your local photography studio. They should have the equipment necessary to reproduce a job like this and they should be able to do it with you present.
I wouldn't trust leaving important art out of my sight or sending it anywhere via any of the letter carriers.

Havin' fun,

Checkers

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John,

The newer professional lines of inkjets provide outstanding print quality. I picked up a desktop printer (HP 7960) and it's print quality equals if not surpasses the quality I was getting on my 8x10 photography, which was previously reproduced using a regular photography lab. of course the max size I can print is 8x10 but there are larger printers out there too.

As far as glicee' is concerned, that's now a fancy term used for "inkjet". Most glicee' these days is produced using inkjet machines, as the original IRIS and similar printers are things of the past, and inkjet rivals their quality anyway.
The difference is in the inks and their longevity, but a fine art print that needs to last a long time is going to be hung behind glass and away from direct sunlight anyway.

I would also never destroy an original. The day I destroy one of my originals is the day someone destroys an original Picasso, Monet or Manet.

If a gallery wants the original destroyed, they need to buy the ENTIRE collection up front along with all the rights to the artwork, for a very hefty sum.
I understand the premise behind limited editions but there's no reason to go and destroy the originals when they can command an even higher price than the repro's.

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Cisco,

I'm with you on that point. Unless it is a precondition of a contract, as Terry mentioned, I would never expect to have to destroy an original piece of artwork. I doubt I would sign a contract that would include doing so in the first place.

John,
If the cartoon work involves characters you intend to follow up with on other designs or prints, you might want to get the charaters themselves copyrighted and protect that aspect for the future. You never know what might be the next craze.

Petting my pet rock...wearing a smiley face....
Rapid

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Hey John, I've been researching alot about photography for a photoshoot for a website I'm doing for a client.

I bought a new camera and it takes awesome pics. I have found places on the net that take your files and print them onto whatever size you need. These are the real prints. They claim the prints will last 50+ years, and they are pretty affordable.

I hate using my printer due to the ridiculous cost of ink carts. The shots I have, I would be doing a lot of printing, so I'll be trying the professional print method.

Check out these guys: EZ Prints

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how did i get in this harris i
ve been at the game...

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Thanks for the replies and advice everyone.
As far as anything in my area, there are no print shops that offer any kind of color printing, other than one color stuff. Heck, when I started selling full color business cards, people said they didnt know anyone could do that.
I plan on having about 500 to 1000 copies made of this art to sell as prints. Someone told me Kinkos does this sort of thing on laser printers.
Id have to drive about two hours to get to one, but that would be okay. Ill post what I come up with. Thanks again.

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