my question is, should i print the part of the image that goes over the glass in "Gerber Vision" see through vinyl on just the parts of the image that will cover glass, or should i print the whole image in the see-through material?
will there be a marked difference if printed on hp vinyl (for parts that are applied to the actual body of the vehicle?
i hope this makes sense.
thanks,
mark
Posted by Terry Nicholson (Member # 2995) on :
Hi Mark my experience with gerber vision has always given same color as the 3m vinyl I use for rest of graphic, quality is actually great. I would use vision for glass and HP vinyl for rest of graphic Terry
[ September 16, 2002, 01:04 PM: Message edited by: Terry Nicholson ]
Posted by Kenneth Sandlin (Member # 3014) on :
Two factors to consider:
Much more expensive to use it where you do not need it.
The see-through qualities of the film may affect the image quality when overlaid on a white surface rather than a window. I'd test a patch if you decide that's the way you want to go.
That's a great graphic, btw!
Posted by Bruce Evans (Member # 44) on :
defintely don't use Gerber-vision on the rest of the image...just the windows.
Posted by Brian Crothers (Member # 2888) on :
Mark; while we use an Encad & DYCO Jet inks, from what I have heard about the Edge, it's most comon to use the one way vinyl on only the windows. there is also this direct producer of one way vinyl to consider: Laser Visions They also have some other cool products. Cheers.
Posted by Bob Rochon (Member # 30) on :
Mark,
There will be a difference in the two as they appear up close, the gerber vision or any perferated printing vinyl is just that,,,,perferated, that means 50% less printable surface.
From afar and as a whole composition as well as safety is concerned the job will look great with the gerber vision, but expect the window area to be a little less vibrant than the body graphics, for that reason and the fact that the glass will add 50% more black to the print as well.
I hope this helps
Posted by Mark Fair Signs (Member # 289) on :
you guys have been a great help! i knew i would get help from the pros!
if i can ever help you guys, let me know.
thanks very much.
mark
Posted by Doug Allan (Member # 2247) on :
I've been curious about the same question & having not had the opportunity yet, to do this type of work on someone elses dime, I have not seen for my self.
While considering the question & reading the replies, I first thought of laying down black (or very dark) vinyl on the car where the lower half of the woman gets printed, then using Gerber vision but as Ken (I think) said, that is expensive. Then it occured to me that a 50% halftone of black dots could be programed to print on top of the image at the same dot pattern as the GerberVision material.
This is clearly only a guess, & not necessary on darker vehicles, but I think for no additional material cost, & a relatively easy set-up/labor expense (which could be saved for future use) I will probably try a sample of this idea if & when a similar scenario arises in my shop.
Posted by Mark Fair Signs (Member # 289) on :
thanks doug,
all points you make seem logical and valid to me.
understanding the print process has a lot to do with it.
i am exploring new territory as far as "edge" printing.
i don't own an edge, i sub such work out to another sign company with those capabilties.
i have a good working relationship with them and i am able to set up image and cut files.(with their help of course)
every job i do with these guys, i learn something.
thanks for your help and expertise.
mark
Posted by TJ Duvall (Member # 3133) on :
Another appearence issue is the little holes in the Gerber Vision collect dirt rather quickly so the white Cruiser may look dirty alot of the time.
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