I need some help please. . . I have a customer that put in a therapy pool in a medical clinic and needs lettering on the floor around the pool designating the depth and "No Diving". Can anyone tell me what type of material I could use that would stick to this flooring and not come off? the floor material is called "Altro Marine vinyl flooring" it has a texture sort of like micro lego blocks. In other words small raised circles. Not so large that regular vinyl wouldn't stick down, but the regular vinyl had a tendancy to start peeling up after a short time. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks
Posted by Jon Butterworth (Member # 227) on :
Best bet would be to cut a mask using regular vinyl ... use a heat gun and rivet brush to conform to surface.
Then roll on a coat of paving paint with a small sponge roller.
Posted by Dan Kearfott (Member # 3756) on :
thanks John, but I was hoping for a material that could be cut and stuck.
BTW I've never used paving paint. What is it and where do you get it?
Posted by David Harding (Member # 108) on :
Jon gets it in Australia.
Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
Dan......go to a real paint store and ask for traffic or parking lot paint!
Posted by John Arnott (Member # 215) on :
I brush lettered old concrete 1 time with 1 shot..... it didn't work well.
Posted by Doug Allan (Member # 2247) on :
hey drummer Dan... how ya been?
since this isn't concrete, I wouldn't try the concrete paints.. but I might try contacting the manufacturer in the UK... there is a phone number HERE...
or, I might assume from the name that it is a vinyl product, & might accept a vinyl screen printing ink if you end up abandoning the adhesive option. I have used Naz-Dar's GV series of vinyl screen printing ink & it is a nasty smelling stuff... but it is probably going to stick real well... (not sure about using vinyl for a stencil though)
The link above also invites requests for samples.
Good Luck, & let us know what you end up doing.
Posted by bruce ward (Member # 1289) on :
how you gonna read lettering on the bottom of pool if people are in it? a large logo I understand butlettering. and since this is a "therapy pool" I would like to assume there would be no diving.
put a damn sign on the wall. people should know better than to dive in a therapy pool anyway
Posted by Doug Allan (Member # 2247) on :
why don't you read the post Bruce?
...oh, I meant the "damn post"
Posted by bruce ward (Member # 1289) on :
yep i messed up i read that post 2 more times and still didnt get it. sorry.
Posted by Bill Diaz (Member # 2549) on :
Don't you hate it when you get requests to do something you know nothing about. I always refer those jobs to others.
Why just the other day somebody had a half baked idea about lettering the roof of a motel so if by chance a jet were to fly overhead a passenger might be staring out the window and read the message.
I said it wasn't worth the cost for the very few who might be able to read the sign and then ... then by chance might be traveling through the area and in need of a place to stay and say, "Oh, yeah, I remember 5 years ago when we flew over this vicinity that there was a motel advertised. Now, what was the name of that motel?"
The customer said, "Well I guess you're too busy to figure a job like that!"
I said, no ... I'm just not capable of handling such a sophisticated project.
I did; however, refer him to Kearfoot Grafix out of Gibson City, IL, because I knew those folks. What fine folks they are and all, and I knew they did complicated projects like that all the time.
Hahahahahaha!
How's my buddy?
Posted by Mark Baty (Member # 9776) on :
Bill, That story reminds me of the guy that came to my shop and wanted four very detailed logos, one in each corner of an "inexpensive showcard". I told him one larger logo in the center would cost less, and look better. I couldn't convince him, and he "wanted it his way". So I directed him to get it done his way, elsewhere.
Sorry, Dan I'm not mutch help, find some pool paint and don't make any guarantees the paint company won't back up. Mark Baty
Posted by Ken Henry (Member # 598) on :
Here's a thought, but I don't know how practical it might be: I'd take a graphite rubbing of the circle pattern that makes up the design on the floor covering. Duplicate that pattern of circles in your design program. Now from that pattern, select the appropriate circles to spell out the message required, and copy only those circles. Import the selected circles and cut only those. Weed, mask, and apply the vinyl ( hopefully a very high tack version ) to the tops of the circle pattern. The end result should look like a dot matrix font on an electronic message screen.
Unverified in production, but just throwing it out there as a possible solution....hope it helps you out.
Posted by Dan Kearfott (Member # 3756) on :
Hey Bill, I did that job. Subbed it out to Slappy Hooper, he had to use his Sky Hook to get to it. I made a huge profit off of it and the owner of the hotel tells me he has been packed with airline personel ever since. He's thinking about expanding and putting in a runway then branching out to other cities and states and wants me to do all the signs for all of his new motels. thanks for the referral Buddy! ;-)
