Our local Chamber of Commerce is looking for a bid on banners to hang on the new lamp posts in town. The problem... they want to have local artists paint on vinyl banners. They are planning to use acrylic art paint. Is this going to work? What would you suggest for banner material? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Posted by jake snow (Member # 5889) on :
I would suggest canvas banners and get them to use oils for painting
Posted by Bruce Williams (Member # 691) on :
I'd rather do it Jake's way. I know it would work, and oil if fun to paint. I don't know if acrylic art paint will stick to vinyl banners. If it won't, they'd have an unholy mess. Some silkscreen ink sticks to vinyl, but it's toxic and messy and doesn't cover well, and I wouldn't recommend it.
Posted by Jon Butterworth (Member # 227) on :
Acrlic paint will stick to vinyl banners.
The only problem is acrylic paint likes to stick to itself even better!
If you acept this limitation and do not FOld the banners but roll them up loosely long enough to transport and erect, you might be OK. We have done this with "temporary" advertising banners. Lots of talcum powder helps too.
Best would be get paint receptive banners and use one shot.
Posted by Shane Bennett (Member # 3968) on :
I tried to find canvas banners (or something that would accept paint) from my sign suppliers.... I didn't get any results... any suggestions? We've had good results with erc vinyl banners but then again... we use 1 shot and clear them.
Posted by jake snow (Member # 5889) on :
There is a company out of California called... crap... USA Banners i think. They can make the canvas one for you. If the artist that is painting them is familiar with one shot, than erc vinyl banners would work. But Depending on the illustrations that they are producing, if they have to use a blending medium (jones cream, linseed, etc.) your gonna have to wait awile (a long while) for them to dry. And then they will still need to faced with wax paper before you roll them up to deliver or to store.
You could always just have the artist paint a small pic of it and (I can't believe I'm saying this) scan it and have it printed on banner material. (Bless me father for I have sinned......) Posted by Brad Ferguson (Member # 33) on :
Enamel receptive banners would be a good way to go.
I remember lettering a few banners of raw canvas back in the day. Come to think of it, I still have a picture of a covered wagon I lettered in the 70's....1970's. I remember mixing 1/3 One Shot Poster Color and 2/3 Bulletin to get a color that would dry fairly fast and still be flexible. Lettering colors try to bleed on raw canvas, but if you dampen the cloth a couple of letters ahead of yourself, you can cut a clean line on top of the wetness and it will just dry out the back.
Brad in Kansas City
Posted by Dale Feicke (Member # 767) on :
I've had nothing but headaches with canvas. Go with the enamel receptive vinyl, and use regular bulletin enamel or oil base. They will look as clean as whoever does them can work. And, they will hold up.
Posted by Dale Feicke (Member # 767) on :
Oh, sorry, be sure to get the block-out material. That way, you won't see the lettering from one side shadowed on the other.
Posted by Randy Campbell (Member # 2675) on :
Did you try our merchant page?
Posted by Bill Lynch (Member # 3815) on :
Enamel receptive banners would work. Better option is to have the artist create the piece in the right scale, scan and print the picture.
Posted by Ian Stewart-Koster (Member # 3500) on :
Make each banner twice as long, and fold them back-to-back, so you get a good smooth outside face on each side. I'm sure there's a barrier coating I've seen people mention that you can put on any old vinyl banner, to make it more paint receptive, if not using ERC, but can't you get an acrylic banner paint in north America? We have two brands here that will stick to cleaned banners which aren't coated to be paint receptive.
![[Bash]](graemlins/bash.gif)