hi all, i know this is being cheeky, and i know some will not agree, but i'm just finishing the design layout for a job i'm quoting for, it arived on a piece of paper ! ), I have to get the quote in by friday, only got the call on monday !
anyway, i've made the rest of the drawing with my limited knowledge of corel draw 12, but i know my current limits ! also, the design has been 'planning' approved so i can't alter it !
what i need, please, is a vector of the theatrical masks, ya know, the happy / sad pair in simple black and white,
i know it's on one of my clip art cd's but gawd knows where it is !
i hope this is allowed on board rules ?
feel free to email me or leave an email for me to contact you on,
help ?
thanks. Hugh
[ August 24, 2005, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: Hugh Potter ]
Posted by Jason Davie (Member # 2172) on :
Hugh do a search on google or excite for comedy tragedy and there al kides of images that you should be able to get a vector from
jason d
Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
Hugh, just out of curiosity, I looked around, and if there are any board rules, they sure are well hidden.
I think there used to be some rule about asking for clip art and fonts here, but that only applies to every fourth request, so you're in the clear.
Posted by Doug Allan (Member # 2247) on :
actually I think there is no written rule against asking for clipart, & the "unwritten" rule is enforced in the style typical to anarchy, such as "to be cajoled, have dispersions cast upon, hunted down, their characters questioned, ridiculed, ball busted, flamed, roasted, made fun of, and generally looked down upon" (thanks Bruce )
Where there is a written rule, it is against sending said art... not against wishing for it. ...and that rule may or may not be "written" here... but is written in the license agreement for the clipart collection.
...but then again there may be an exemption clause that allows this in the rare event where the recieving party "knows it is on one of their CD's"
[ August 24, 2005, 08:36 PM: Message edited by: Doug Allan ]
Posted by J & N Signs (Member # 901) on :
Call your cousin Harry... Actually if you have Corel you should have it on the clipart disk..
Posted by Dave Grundy (Member # 103) on :
Doug..I just can't help myself...
quote:have dispersions cast upon
Did you mean aspersions ?
Please don't beat me! Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
Main Entry: as·per·sion Pronunciation: &-'sp&r-zh&n, -sh&n Function: noun 1 : a sprinkling with water especially in religious ceremonies 2 a : the act of calumniating b : a calumnious expression <cast aspersions on her integrity>
Main Entry: ca·lum·ni·ate Pronunciation: k&-'l&m-nE-"At Function: transitive verb Inflected Form(s): -at·ed; -at·ing 1 : to utter maliciously false statements, charges, or imputations about 2 : to injure the reputation of by calumny synonym see MALIGN - ca·lum·ni·a·tion /-"l&m-nE-'A-sh&n/ noun - ca·lum·ni·a·tor /-'l&m-nE-"A-t&r/ noun
I think "Calumniation" occurs about every 4th post here.
[ August 24, 2005, 09:18 PM: Message edited by: Todd Gill ]
Posted by Doug Allan (Member # 2247) on :
I'm defending Bruce here & not myself...(where were you when that famous quote was bandied about for weeks on end... quoted & requoted... copied & pasted ad infinitum)
anyway, you are right Dave the proper term was to "cast Aspersions", BUT... it has become one of those oddities in the english language that has been misused, as in "cast dispersions" so frequently so as to have become a somewhat acceptable expression, somewhat like slang.
Posted by Michael R. Bendel (Member # 5847) on :
Funny you asked this... I JUST spent 1.5 hours converting an embroidered set of THEATRICAL MASKS for a lady who rides in a truck (semi) with her husband. (You should have seen his eyes roll. Steady!). I was grudgingly paid for the 2 hours I bid. (We are really busy with 'bigger' stuff right now.) Anywho! I have a 5 color THEATRICAL MASK I will part with for a nominal fee. E-mail me... we'll talk... cut ready, by the way & quite nice! (I just created this last Thurs., what a hoot!)
Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
Found it.
"* The Letterhead WebSite, Letterville, and the Shortreed Family strictly prohibits the use of this site as a means to request copywritten artwork and fonts."
I guess there must be several definitions for the word "strictly". Posted by Curtis hammond (Member # 2170) on :
WEll now there are lots of public domain are of the theater masks around. That is not copy written so it must be ok to ask for it and send it... Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
what's your definition of public domain, Curtis?
Posted by Doug Allan (Member # 2247) on :
quote:Originally posted by Don Coplen: what's your definition of public domain, Curtis?
public domain = available in Letterville Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
I'm not really up for what stupidity is to follow. Hugh needs some art right away, and his problem should have been solved by the first reply...Jason's.
Posted by Michael R. Bendel (Member # 5847) on :
Stay tuned Don... You have read the responses before, haven't you? Let me tell you a story...... Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
Aw great! It's story time! Can we hear the one about Calvin and how he couldn't hold it...so he starts peeing on everything in sight...and....oh crap!
The stupidty started... Posted by Glenn Taylor (Member # 162) on :
Did you know that time flies like an arrow and fruit flies like a banana?
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
That's great Glenn, can I borrow that one?
Posted by Glenn Taylor (Member # 162) on :
You'd have to ask him..... Posted by Fred Weiss (Member # 3662) on :
A 30 second search at Clipart.Com using keywords "drama" and "mask" returns 7,136 possible choices. Most are available in vectors.
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
...get this Glenn...my college room-mate and good friend LIVES in Groucho's old LA house...and I stayed overnight in it last fall....I think he said it was built in 1927 or 8.....
Posted by Glenn Taylor (Member # 162) on :
Did you guess the secret word while you were there?
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
.....you got me scratchin my head on that one...I don't really know a ton about Groucho....fill me in on that one....
Posted by Glenn Taylor (Member # 162) on :
You've never seen "You Bet Your Life"?
(something tells me I'm older than I think I am)
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
Nope...can't say I have .....you have some 'splainin' to do.... Posted by Doug Allan (Member # 2247) on :
I didn't know anything about "the secret word", or "you bet your life"... but I know you can find something about anything on Google, so I brought this LINK back for you Todd.
...but I also ran across this other groucho trivia that is so legendary that I imagine many here, like myself, have heard it before... BUT, I noticed another detail I found interesting shown now in bold type.
quote: You may have heard about a legendary line concerning a certain cigar that Groucho was alleged to have uttered during one program. Some say it never happened; others swear they've seen it on TV. As it turns out, the truth is somewhere inbetween. One of the unexpected pleasures of spending time with the people behind the scenes was getting to the bottom of this infamous incident. For the record, it was ["You Bet Your Life" head writer] Bernie Smith who provided us with the details. To our amazement, Bernie had kept a chart throughout the life of the show, in which he had meticulously recorded the names of the contestants, what the secret word was and how much they ended up winning.
There was, it seems, a sign painter named Mr. Story who lived in Bakersfield, California. He and his wife had what was reputed to be the largest family in America. Originally there were twenty-two children, but three had died. During the first season of "You Bet Your Life," when it was broadcast on radio only, the Story family was bused in from Bakersfield to be contestants on the show. After a bit of small talk, the conversation went like this:
Groucho: "How many children do you have?"
Mrs. Story: "Nineteen, Groucho."
Groucho: "Nineteen?! Why do you have so many children? It must be a terrible responsibility and a burden."
Mrs. Story: "Well, because I love my children — and I think that's our purpose here on Earth — and I love my husband."
Groucho: "I love my cigar, too, but I take it out of my mouth once in a while!"
The studio audience went wild, but director Bob Dwan ordered the exchange deleted before it could be aired because it was obviously too racy for 1947 sensibilities. So the Story story is true, but anyone who claims to have seen that program is either mistaken or lying because it occurred three years before the show's 1950 television debut and it was edited out of the radio show before anyone but the studio audience had a chance to hear it. Unfortunately, no copies of that legendary outtake are known to have survived.
Posted by Arthur Vanson (Member # 2855) on :
I digitized this one, so no copyright issues. Anyone is welcome to download it.
a couple of images have landed on my door matt, so to speak, thankyou to those concerned !
i never thought to look n the corel clip art disc, i've never been though it ! i nkow my lad loaded it onto his pc along with corel 12, and i had no idea where it had cme from until he showed me a third disc !!!!!
i don't know as the image is exactly copywrite, i coulda just 'traced' an image, but was hoping someone had one a little more accurate, tracing doesnt always provide the bestest results. the image is used worldwide and is recognised as a generic sign for the theatre, is it not ?
re clipart.com, i imagine i'll need to pay via a credit card ? i cut mine up when i cleared it all a couple of years back, i'd sooner set my things on fire than have another card to abuse !! i'm sure i'll use it at some point, but for now what i cant make find or swap, i'll have to beg or learn !!
anyways !! thank you. Hugh
[ August 25, 2005, 05:02 AM: Message edited by: Hugh Potter ]
Posted by Glenn Taylor (Member # 162) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hugh Potter: ... i imagine i'll need to pay via a credit card ? i cut mine up when i cleared it all a couple of years back, i'd sooner set my things on fire than have another card to abuse !!
A wise man. Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
Doug - thanks for that explanation...."the secret word"....very interesting...I had never seen of or heard of that show before....
Sounds like a hoot....hahahha.
Posted by DianeBalch (Member # 1301) on :
HUgh
Check your e-mail. I just sent 2 different version in both Corel version 12 and Adobe Illustrator.
Diane
Posted by Hugh Potter (Member # 5748) on :
will do, spank you very much !
Posted by Glenn Taylor (Member # 162) on :
Ok...I have to ask. What is it about Brits and spankings?
Posted by Hugh Potter (Member # 5748) on :
i think it's something to do with riding crops, but if i told you anymore of that top secret i would have to send over Mr Bond to bump you off !
Posted by Neil D. Butler (Member # 661) on :
You are a class act Arthur!
Where's poor Barry.. lol just a Joke. I like Barry!
Posted by Bob Nugent (Member # 3743) on :
Quote: (tracing doesnt always provide the bestest results.)
It is amazing to me how few people know how to use vectors. The whole vinyl industry is based on vectors and few know how to use them. Bah Humbug!
Posted by Hugh Potter (Member # 5748) on :
having no formal training or background in graphic design, of any kind, i'm kind of learning as i go, when you say 'use' vectors, do you mean 'make' or 'use' ? i think i know how to use them, break them up, resize them etc, and i'm gradually learning how to make my own when it's not available as to me on my discs, but until i get to learn how to use the software properly, it's gonna take me a while to know how to make them quickly and efficiently,
for eg, it took me five hours the other night to make a vector of roof trusses, ie a roofs skeleton, this was made from scratch, not even a basic outline to work from ! i learnt a good few things along the way, continually changing the design and reworking it until i eventually ended up with a vector that I, and more importantly my customer, is happy with ! i guess the proof wil be in the pudding so to speak, when i cut and apply the two layer graphic to a small van soon, it's got me the job and earning $650 anyways !
i dont have a website so am unsure how to post on here, but will gladly send a jpeg of it to anyone on here to post for me, i welcome and constructive crit then !! any takers ?
[ August 25, 2005, 04:05 PM: Message edited by: Hugh Potter ]
Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
I know the UK is a fair way away, but I'd recommend David Butler's seminar to anybody who could use a hand getting started with vector art.
Hugh, I put together a simple step by step of how to post pictures on forums. It's in the step by step section of letterhead.com.
Posted by Hugh Potter (Member # 5748) on :
cheers Don, i'll have a look, i only ever come in here and forget there's a whole other letterhead world !
Posted by Bob Nugent (Member # 3743) on :
Hugh, if you are learning, you are on the right track. I do all my vector work in Photoshop, but almost all the others have a bezier tool and that is the one that is the key. My first suggestion is to choose the program that you want and stick with it because many use different controls and it can get confusing. Both Photoshop and Illustrator can go back and forth, I still do everything in Photoshop, because I do more photo-art than drawing. I it is a frustrating tool to learn and that must be the reason that so few take the time. but it is a must if you want clean and smooth artwork. I have a son in law that spends most of his time trying to clean up artwork that he has scanned in and that has thousands of points and he sits there are deletes and straightens for hours. When you learn how to use a Bezier tool properly you can really do some great work fast. I usually go around an object quickly then zoom in and adjust in close up as it makes the points more visible. If you choose and use Photoshop, I will gladly answer any questions if I can. I am not in the sign business, but I was and always will have a interest in it and that is why I lurk around this place.
Posted by Hugh Potter (Member # 5748) on :
thank you Bob, (where do i nkow your name from ? !!), i dont have photoshop, nearly everything i do is on coredraw 12, it has a bezier tool, which i stumbled across... woah ! and quicky clicked off it !!! i'll have another go now i have an idea of what to use it for !
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...get this Glenn...my college room-mate and good friend LIVES in Groucho's old LA house...and I stayed overnight in it last fall....I think he said it was built in 1927 or 8.....
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